Talk:The Pioneer Mother Memorial/Archive 1

Holding the barrel?
I think the Smithsonian's description is slightly in error. The woman appears to be holding not the barrel, but the forearm of the rifle.

Also, just wanted to point out the pioneer mother statue in Denver is similar, with a mother holding a child in one arm and a rifle in the other. It doesn't seem to have an article yet but it is at. — Brianhe (talk) 04:23, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing this out. I removed "barrel" from the article, so now it just says she is holding a flintlock rifle. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:11, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Images
I keep seeing this article waiting for a review at GAC. I'll tell you what stops me from doing a review on it: :Commons Freedom of panorama United States. The images are wonderful, but the way I read the FoA: For public artwork installed between 1923 and 1977 inclusive, use or. I don't know if that's any other potential reviewer's concern, but it seems to me those wonderful images should have a notice on each one. Your thoughts? — Maile (talk) 21:28, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I guess I can request their deletion at Commons. I wouldn't let the images stop you from completing a review, if you are interested. The images are a very simple fix. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:37, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe you misunderstood my intent?? I'm just suggesting you pick one of those tags, either "no notice" or "not renewed", and put it on each image at commons.  Stick those on the images at Commons, and I'll do the review for you.  OK? — Maile  (talk) 21:48, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, I did misunderstand. I am not sure either of those tags are applicable, though. The Smithsonian Institution entry says the work was copyrighted when it was surveyed by the Save Outdoor Sculpture! program. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:26, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * If these images must be deleted from Commons, perhaps the first two could be uploaded here at English Wikipedia under fair use? Seems it may be appropriate to illustrate both sides of the memorial, especially since the reverse side has its own artwork. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:58, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe someone else can answer that question. I'm not familiar enough with all the details of Non-free media use. — Maile  (talk) 20:01, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. Well, feel free to take on the review if you are comfortable, otherwise I can wait for someone else once the image issue is resolved. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:35, 21 January 2016 (UTC)