Talk:The Pit (arena)

Cheering tradition
At the beginning of basketball games, there is tremendous applause and cheering. There is a long-standing tradition wherein the fans remain standing and applauding until both teams have scored a basket. Some fans sit down as soon as the Lobos have scored, whether or not the opposing team has made a basket; many fans consider this poor sport, and the applause continues. I once attended a game where the opposing team did not make a basket for over eight minutes of play; my hands were still stinging a couple of minutes after their first basket. The home team advantage comes from the sheer volume of the noise, as well as the altitude: Albuquerque is a mile above sea level. --BlueNight (talk) 02:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

This tradition has varied over the years: stand until the Lobos score, stand until the visitors score, now stand until both score. Seems to change with the coach. I was a student when the move was made from Johnson Gym, but I can't really remember what, if anything, was done in Johnson.Wschart (talk) 15:47, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Ban on drinks in stands?
Sometime during the 70s or 80s, drinks were banned from the stands as result of an incident where a fan throw a cup while an opposing team's player was attempting the front half of a 1 and 1 in the closing seconds of the game. The shot was missed, but the refs granted a fresh attempt, which the player made, and, as I recall, he made the second shot. This turned a Lobo victory into defeat. Anyway, are drinks still banned? Wschart (talk) 06:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I got a chance to attend a game tonite while on a trip and they are allowing food and drink into the stands.Wschart (talk) 05:46, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Re-write
I have attempted to rewrite this page, as it was literally cut-and-pasted from several other articles by CBS Sports and the Lobo athletics website. If i have dropped any of the references in the translation, please help by replacing them when you find them. ToddC4176 (talk) 16:36, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Johnson Gym
The seating capacity of Johnson Gym during it's basketball days was considerably more than 4000. The article here lists it at 7800, which closely corresponds with my memory (I was a student during the period when the Pit was built), but I can't find any outside source. The Lobo athletic site only describes current situation. 173.30.174.133 (talk) 19:20, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Capacity, post-renovations
Prior to the 2009 renovations, the seating capacity was listed as 18,018. UNM announced that the renovations would eliminate about 3000 seats, yet after they were complete, the capacity was listed as 17,126. Beginning with the 2011-12 season, the capacity was changed to 15,411. I have contacted the UNM communications director, and he confirms that the renovations did eliminate nearly 3000 seats, that the 17,126 number was incorrect, and that 15,411 has been the official capacity since the completion of the renovations. I will be correcting that number and adding references. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 23:40, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Page Name
The proper name of the page remains "The Pit (arena)" under WP:COMMONNAME: "Wikipedia prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in reliable English-language sources) as such names will be the most recognizable and the most natural." Clearly the formal name should be stated, as it is, but "The Pit" is still far and away the most common name. Even the owners of WisePies have acknowledged that it will still be called The Pit. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 17:22, 2 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I am inclined to disagree, as UNM also clearly stated that the WisePies arena name would be featured on the building, tickets, and merchandise. From now on, this branding will be plastered everywhere. Colloquially it will still be referred to as the pit, but on paper it now has a new name. I understand COMMONNAME, but I believe that there is also a duty to present the stadium by its name, which is what we are going to hear from now on in the media. As for how it should be named in the title and lead sentence, It should be "WisePies Arena (aka The Pit). ®amos wants you in his office, NOW! 17:36, 2 December 2014 (UTC)


 * How it is officially represented is not the point under COMMONNAME. The name should be what it is most commonly known by, and therefore what users will most likely search for. In fact, CN policy directly contradicts your reasoning:  "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources."  There are numerous examples of Wiki pages that use the better known name rather than the official name. Please restore the page and the links you have changed to comply with WP naming policy. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 17:44, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
 * As redirects and links are being changed, I am restoring this to its commonly known name before the task becomes even larger. WP:COMMONNAME clearly makes "The Pit (arena)" the proper name. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 21:31, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: When I moved the page back to this name, I did so manually and failed to undo the earlier move, so the edit history prior to December 2, 2014 is here. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 23:37, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

"Dreamstyle Arena"
I am confused why my edit clarifying that this building is now known as the Dreamstyle Arena was reverted. The previous version states the building was formally known as the Dreamstyle arena, which does not appear to be correct according to the University of New Mexico website or various secondary sources such as http://www.1017theteam.com/2018/01/10/unm-basketball-jackson-leads-unm-with-20-points-as-lobos-defeat-cowboys-75-66/ or http://trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/mbb/wyoming-men-s-basketball-looks-to-continue-strong-conference-start/article_b77d96c9-18c2-5f16-90f4-c4a7850d17f4.html. I have no problem with the page name remaining at The Pit, per COMMONNAME, but we should not be inaccurately stating that the arena is no longer known as Dreamstyle Arena. Of course, it's possible I am missing something, so if anyone can point me to reliable sources indicating a very recent name change, I would be much obliged. Thanks. Waterloosunset27 (talk) 05:32, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You appear to be mixing up the words "formally" and "formerly." Dreamstyle Arena is the formal name (WisePies Arena is the former name). The wording "formally named" is correct and more precise than your version. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 15:45, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You are 100% correct. I am such a doofus. Apologies, and thanks for setting me straight.Waterloosunset27 (talk) 22:01, 11 January 2018 (UTC)