Talk:The Pussycat Dolls/Archive 1

Layout error
I see a big layout error on this page; sadly, I'm not allowed to fix it. Could someone else please do this? Thanks.--X LoVeDaDiva x (talk) 22:07, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

New name
The last two singles "Jai Ho (You Are My Destiny)" and "Hush Hush; Hush Hush" have been going by the name "Nicole Scherzinger ft. The Pussycat Dolls" so does that mean they are now Nicole Scherzinger and The Pussycat Dolls? the pussycat dolls have had a number of singles that have reached the top 20 in the charts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Solotwilight (talk • contribs) 02:39, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Fix this sentence, please
Hello, this sentence should be fixed: "Along with Applegate, Christina Aguilera and Carmen Electra (who was the group's lead performer for many of their shows) the troupe was featured in a Maxim Magazine shoot in 2002." First, throw in a comma after the parenthetical. More importantly, from the wording of this sentence it is difficult to deduce whether or not Applegate and Aguilera were part of the troupe, or simply two other celebrities that were also featured in Maxim shoots in 2002. I don't think the latter was intended, were Applegate and Aguilera also in the band, at some point? The parenthetical makes it clear that Electra was, although the wording is equally ambiguous. Cheers 76.93.90.245 (talk) 00:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

The article needs a new pic
One member, Melody Thornton, is missing from the picture. If anyone has another one, please share.Hihellowhatsup 04:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Misc
What does it mean that Madonna, Aquilera, and Spears were in "pussycat garb"? Was there any actual association with the group or were they just wearing pin-up outfits? MK2 16:43, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hey Yall, if you go to Amazon.com, and type in Pussycat Dolls, or PCD, you will find the album cover for their album coming out in September. I think you guys should put that up here, instead of the "Don't Cha" Single CD cover.
 * Good call. Done. AriGold 12:36, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Rumors
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 * Administrators encountering biographies that are unsourced and controversial in tone, where there is no NPOV version to revert to, should delete the article without discussion (see WP:CSD criterion G10 for more details).

--Design 07:19, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Source
Hi. You guys might wanna check out this site. It contains some information about the group. Notice this: our article says the group was created in 1995, but this website states that it was created in 1993, but the first performance took place in 1995. Have we committed a quid-pro-quo, or is the website wrong? May be worth checking. Regards, Redux 04:52, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Also, if you want to insert biographies of the members, you can find the information here. Careful not to violate copyrights though, but this kind of information might help the article.  Redux 05:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

single info
the pussycat dolls released a song and a video for a movie before the release of "Don't cha". I don't remember the name of the movie but it was with Jennifer Lopez, something about dancing... not very old...

Just tought it should be added to the singles area...


 * Shall we dance? getcrunk juice 02:03, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

"Sway" is the song you're talking about. Most people still consider "Don't Cha" to be the 1st single. 132.208.24.101 23:39, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't "Sway" be added as first single, as it was the first single? -- Luigi-ish 09:40, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what people 'consider' to be their first single, it matter what IS their first single and that would be "Sway", NOT "Don't Cha".

im glad somone else brought this up, im am fed up of people saying that dont cha was their debut single when sway was, its like how people consider crazy in love to be beyonces first single when it was work it out, its only because sway failed to chart in the u.s 'fans' of 'the dolls' are ashamed and want to forget/pretend that it was never released because they hate to admit that their first single was a flop and not a huge hit like dont cha was 81.1.112.20 23:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

no that's not how it happened. I was watching the E! THS (True Hollywood Story) on the Pussycat's and although you can't believe all of that show, Robin Antin or there manager or somebody who works very closely with the girls said that "Sway" was used to promote some movie like i think "Shall We Dance?" and that "Don't Cha" was the first official single from their album. They released "Don't Cha" to gain attention and once it became a hit they rushed to make an album.

Criticism and Vocalists Sections
I removed the "Criticism" section, which consisted of a single line: The Pussycat Dolls' composer's songs have been continuously criticized for their sexual references, and some critics think that their songs have no meaning. That could be said about 90% of all pop artists. If anyone has anything of substance to add, please feel free to resurrect it.

Also, I find the tone of the "Vocalists" section to be a little odd. Only one member of the group is a regular singer; three of the girls have only sung on one track, a b-side. Given that the group is considered a singing act, this is clearly a significant detail, but this section seems to dismiss the critics as uninformed. What the dill-yo? --Aemilia 01:26, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The "Vocalists" section and part of the "Repertoire" section were removed. I think they are both valid inclusions and I'll reinstate them. --Design 11:19, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Americocentric
This article has clearly been written by someone that isn't too aware of the world outside America. It needs to be rewritten in a more international tone. violet/riga (t) 14:16, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Roles of group
It's my understanding (from Allmusic) that only Scherzinger is actually involved in the musical aspects of the group, with the rest of the members pretty much explicitly eye candy/dancers, with no musical involvement at all. I quote Allmusic: Open the booklet for their 2005 debut, PCD, and their artificiality is made clear: the first page reads "All lead and background vocals by Nicole Scherzinger. Should this be made clearer, and Scherzinger's role mentioned earlier in the article? john k 00:19, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Carmit and Melody also sang in their song Beep.
 * Do you have a source on that? Allmusic says the booklet says that all lead and background vocals are by Scherzinger. john k 18:53, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The booklet also says: "Additional vocals by Melody Thornton and Carmit Bachar." My friend has the booklet himself, and I read it. Euqinimod 03:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

complete rewrite needed
As the original author of this article, way back when, I think we need a complete rewrite here. The Pussycat Dolls started as a burlesque dance troop and the original article reflected this. Now they are a pop singing group - the article has evolved to reflect this but the change was so substantial, I think the article would benefit from somebody starting it over from scratch. As an analogy, it would have been like if we had started a Wikipedia article on Ronald Reagan back when he was an actor and then continuously updated it through his subsequent political career - at some point, we should acknowledge we're essentially talking about a different subject than the one we started with. MK2 03:17, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I agree. A massive revision would be a good idea. john k 04:11, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Jessica Sutta page deleted?
Why is the page for Jessica Sutta (which this one links to) deleted? Djedi 15:17, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

The Jessica Sutta page has been reinstated.Design 03:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Tainted Love
The cover version recorded by the Pussycat Dolls is a medley "Tainted Love/Where did our love go". The source of this cover is accurately attributed to Soft Cell, as their hit '80s version was a medley of the same two songs. The original individual songs are correctly attributed to Gloria Jones & The Supremes, respectively. A recent edit credited Diana Ross as the original source for "Tainted Love", and removed reference to Soft Cell. I will revert this edit. Design 01:06, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

New Song or Unreleased?
on Last.FM, on the songs list, it's says the Pussycat Dolls have a song called "Fever". [Put title here]- Hill03
 * They used to perform this song (the Peggy Lee classic), usually with Carmen Electra singing, back when they were still known as a dance troupe. I don't know if the current incarnation stills performs the song. MK2 02:09, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks!- Hill03

Vegas Show
Does this article need some clarification about the PCD show in Las Vegas, as a separate entity to the touring group with Nicole Scherzinger? Are they two differnet things? Aren't most of the live guests, like Denise Richards, appearing in Vegas, not with the Scherzinger group? Design 09:30, 18 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I remember hearing and reading about the fact that the PCD showgirls are different than the PCD group, although (obviously) they're connected. I just don't know where I heard it from...but it was an official source. SKS2K6 06:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Salaried employees of Interscope??
On Melody Thornton's wiki page it says that she is a salaried employee of Interscope like the rest of the Pussycat Dolls. what exactly does this mean and how is this different to arrangements that other recording artists usually have with their label? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.49.194.48 (talk • contribs)
 * A common arrangement is where the recording artist has a contract with the label for their recordings only. The artist would usually have their own management, publisher, lawyers, touring company, merchandise company, etc. quite separate from the label. This means the artist would have potentially more "artistic" control over their business, more "revenue streams" under their control, and focus on their own career. If they are a group, then the membership of the group would commonly be decided by the members themselves.

Since the Dolls are employees then nearly all of the above would be controlled by Interscope, including the ability to hire & fire. The label's focus would probably be on Interscope's profits (short term?) and could possibly conflict with the long term career of the Dolls members. The Spice Girls might make an interesting comparison: they were formed by a manager, whom they later fired, and they went on to control their own affairs, and spawn some solo success. So it's not necessarily all doom for the solo futures of the current Dolls. --Design 10:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Past members?
The info box currently lists Eva Longoria and Christina Aguilera as "past members". They are already listed as "guests" towards the end of the article. Guests is probably more accurate; if so, then their names should be removed from the info box. --Design 10:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Random Fact
NZ is the only country in the world where every single released by the pussy cat dolls has reached number one. Mathmo 06:40, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Gosh thats nothing to be proud of - NZL
 * I know, and I'm not. Just a random fact, sad but true. Mathmo Talk 10:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Discography
I recommend that the detailed discography continue with its own current article, and that the discog. in this article be reduced with less detail. The current table format makes it take up a lot of space. --Design 00:11, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I propose reducing the discog. by removing the images and some other details (all of which will remain at The Pussycat Dolls discography), unless there is a consensus to the contrary. --Design 12:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

User:Candy Baby 1234
and her IP sockpuppets and  (see Requests for checkuser/Case/Candy Baby 1234) are continually removing the Pop music genre from this article and several other Pussycat Dolls-related articles. To suggest that this group is not a pop group and purely an R&B group is ridiculous. Does anybody else feel that PCD is not a pop group? --musicpvm 19:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Proper Genre.
Three users, me included, seem to be involved in an edit war. One user keeps changing the genre to R&B and Hip Hop, while the other user and I have reverted The Pussycat Dolls' genre back to Pop/R&B/Dance/Hip hop. Technically, their genre is pop, R&B, dance, and also hip hop. They're not just R&B and hip hop. I am willing, however, to go with a consensus on the genre. Acalamari 17:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, how about:

Pop R&B Hip Hop Dance

19:11 5 February —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JJH1992 (talk • contribs) 19:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC).
 * That looks fine. What's the difference between what I said and what you've suggested? Arre you saying that dance should be at the bottom of the genres? That's okay, as long as we can keep all the genres in. Acalamari 19:13, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Listen they don't really have a genre they are lip syncers on TV on stage they are still lip syncers im sorry to say their lips don't move when they sing most of the time.Though other wise pop/r'n'b

Christina Applegate
The article currently states:

"1993–2003: Dance troupe beginnings Some sources claim that Robin Antin began exploring the idea of a modern burlesque troupe in 1993 with her friend Linh Le and Christina Applegate (both friends since high school)"

Can someone cite a source for Linh Le? Or is this just a lingering piece of vandalism? Also needs some clarification as to who were friends "since high school"; since Antin was born in 1961 and Applegate in 1971 they were probably not students together. Does the writer mean that Le and Applegate were friends "since high school"? --Design 11:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Still no source for this. Needs clarification. --Design 00:33, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Bdushaw has added two sources for Applegate. Thank you. Still no source for Linh Le, nor the school connection, so I 'll remove both.--Design 12:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

?
What has happened to the page? All the lists have been removed and it looks generally untidy! JJH1992 20:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Discussion Over The Current Edits.
I'm posting this message in order to prevent further reverts on this article. I would like to discuss why JJH1992 keeps reverting Mel Etitis. If the version by Mel Etitis is the proper article format, why bother reverting it? JJH1992, what is the point of changing the article to a non-standard format? Acalamari 19:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I believe my version looks tidier, and also the picture looks better than the terrible one that used to be used. Mel Etitis is forever reverting my edits without even looking, its very annoying. JJH1992 19:12, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Even so, if your revision doesn't go with the standard format, why go against the proper format? I must also point out to you that you've reverted us three times in the last few hours: 1, 2, 3. Acalamari 19:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

JJH1992's rationale seems to be that his taste overrides Wikipedia guidelines, policies, and standards; I'm afraid that it doesn't. He also refuses to explain his edits, or give sources for substantive changes &mdash; and the images that he uploads are too often wrongly licensed, unsourced, etc., as in this case. --Mel Etitis ( Talk ) 20:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, which is why I started this discussion. I'd like to know why JJH1992 is editing like this. Continual reversion and uploading of unfree/wrongly licensed images are reasons to block a user. JJH1992 has to stop this; he's already been blocked multiple times before for edit warring and failure to discuss his edits. Acalamari 20:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately it seems as though he's determined to be blocked yet again. --Mel Etitis ( Talk ) 21:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Repertoire
I propose reinstating the list of recorded and live cover versions, and would like to throw this open to discussion: (a) I think the point of the examples is to illustrate a relationship between the Dolls current repertoire and their burlesque roots. Their inclusion of so many '50s-'60s "jazzy" tunes with vamps shows this "root", AND is distinctive, given that they are a mainstream 21st century pop group. (b) This may be a reason such a list is not in "comparable articles". (c) The list of recorded cover versions is complete and up to date (tracks from PCD, b-sides & bonus tracks). While the list of live cover versions may not be exhaustive, it does not claim to be (it says "includes"). (d) Yes, cited refs. for all the live cover versions would be good. --Design 08:00, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Much of this is OR. All that's needed, in any case, is some version of part what you say here, rewritten for inclusion in the article (if citations can be found); a list of songs is unnecessary. --Mel Etitis  ( Talk ) 10:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree; we don't need a list. Also, as Mel Etitis said, citations need to be found. There is enough unsourced material in this article as it is without adding more. Acalamari 18:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Asia Nitollano.
Does anybody have a source for her being the newest member of the Pussycat Dolls? The information about her is continually added, but no one is sourcing it? I've never watched  Pussycat Dolls Present: The Search for the Next Doll, so I don't know if she is the new member, and even if I had watched the program, my mind is not a source for Wikipedia. Can anyone verify the information? Acalamari 18:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Oops!
I'm from the UK and have been watching The Search For The Next Doll. I've just accidentally read that Asia was the winner - it was a spoiler for me cos on the UK showings there are still 5 potential Dolls! There should be a warning on the article. CC 91 08:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Carmit Bachar
Has anyone edited this page about Carmit? I noticed that there are slips in there about her being a man half way through a sex change. That is unwarranted and inappropriate. So as a reader and user of Wikipedia, I was wondering if it was going to be fixed, or if I could fix it? Weegirl21122206 16:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)Weegirl
 * A vandal added that nonsense in. CandeeJ reverted the vandalism. Thank you for your concern. :) Acalamari 16:45, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Single Infoboxes
I've added pictures to the single chronology of the single infoboxes. It took me forever so If they are removed I will be most displeased! CandeeJ 16:36, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Info box
Does anyone else think the info box looks terribly untidy? Nobody else's bad page has the members comma-separated. I'm starting a discussion. I'm going to change it to User:CandeeJ's version. Anybody have any thoughts? JJH1992 11:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * First, you're simply wrong about other pages; how many have you looked at?

Secopndly, it's in any case irrelevant how many other pages get it wrong; the use of commas, lower-case letters, etc., is both MoS and WikiProject style. --Mel Etitis ( Talk ) 16:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * JJH1992, I have given you links to WikiProject Musicians and Template:Infobox musical artist. Why do you continue to take the page out of the WikiProject format? All because other infoboxes are wrong is not a reason to change it; the only reason other band infoboxes are wrong is because no one has corrected them yet. Acalamari 18:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

"Fever" Suggestion
In the live covers section it attributes the song "Fever" to Peggy Lee. The song, though a staple of Lee's career, was originally composed by Otis Blackwell. It initially was recorded by Little Willie John, and only later became one of Lee's hits (after she added more lyrics). So this is a cover of a cover, and perhaps should be credited to another person.

Roosellclause 05:50, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

The link in this article goes to "Fever (1956 song)" which cites both Blackwell and John. Peggy Lee's version was the "crossover" hit that turned the song into a standard. The Dolls' version is closer in arrangement to Lee's than John's. So, I think the current wording in this article is sufficient.--Design 09:32, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Split?
Should we split the pages for the dance troupe and the R&B/Pop act? JJH1992 15:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Sections and infobox.
In accordance with both Template:Infobox musical artist and Manual of Style (capital letters), I have sorted out the infobox and lowercased certain letters in the sections. I am not trying to get on anybody's "good side" or anything like that; I am simply following the guidelines and formats. Acalamari 18:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Too soon to add new Category?
Was wondering if perhaps it might be too soon to add a "one hit wonder" tag on this group? they pretty much fell off the map already. --Hourick 11:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't believe that tag is appropriate, as they've had more than one successful single. Acalamari 15:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Hourick you must be trolling. They have had 5 top 10 singles in the UK. --Design 10:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Sway
Umm, from lastime I checked, but wasn't '"Sway" a single from PCD? There's a video and stuff, why not make a WikiPage? Explode24 21:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC) (Australian time)

The song does have its own page: Sway (song). Was the Dolls version a promo only? --Design 13:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

This article and the Pussycat Dolls infobox have had "Sway" removed as a single. The Dolls' Discography lists it as a single. Which is correct? Was it a promo only? --Design 12:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Kimberly Wyatt: Singer, Dancer, or Both?
Kimberly Wyatt's wiki-page states that she is nothing more than a dancer. Despite the fact that she does sing along with the other dolls in their live performances, albeit a very small vocal role. She is one of the most powerful dancers on the group, and arguably the most flexible but should we cut her short and underestimate her abilities? I believe that we should make Kimberly Wyatt's page say that she is both a dancer and a singer. It has also been noted that she will have a more prominent vocal role in the upcoming album. Also on her page it lists her "song genre" as Pop and R&B. Also in several of her interviews she states that she is both a dancer and singer.

And her page also gives the least detail, among the other members of the Pussycat Dolls, of her life. It doesn't mention her role in the dolls or her life as a doll. It also doesn't mention her role in the Starsky and Hutch movie. I believe that, seeing Nicole, Jessica, Melody, Carmit, and Ashley's pages are so detailed that we should improve Kimberly's page to be much longer and more detailed as well as try and find more links about Kimberly Wyatt and try finding some clues as to her vocal ability and her dancing ability.

Gaysinger15 10:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

SPLIT!
I've split the page into the music group and the burlesque troup JJH1992 23:59, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Individual members' pages
The infoboxes on each of the Dolls' individual articles says they each recorded for Cheyenne/Polydor or Polydor 2001-2002. Is this an error copied from Nicole Scherzinger's infobox? As far as I am aware only Scherzinger had a label at this time, via Eden's Crush. --Design 00:53, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

La la la
The article is still not being frank about the fact that Nicole Schrzwhatever does most (more than 95%) of all the vocals (at least on the 1st album, and I would assume that the mics are off in the live shows as well). Hello? We're talking about a singing and dancing group that's really one girl singing and dancing and the rest just dancing, don't you think that should be mentioned somewhere? 88.112.6.32 11:14, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Melody and Carmit both have active vocal roles, and the dolls management would have us believe the other three sing. Untill a formal announcment is made stating Nicole is the only active vocalist, we will leave it as it is.

Candice —Preceding unsigned comment added by CandiceWalsh (talk • contribs) 23:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Best Friend?
Right under the headline "The Pussycat Dolls", the last line says "my best friend is ruth adu-baohen". That needs to be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.175.203.119 (talk) 16:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It was vandalism; I have reverted it. Acalamari 16:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

The
It's The Pussycat Dolls, not Pussycat Dolls. Check the cover of PCD (album)! Tcatron565 00:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Stupid request
I want to request citation for the fact that The Pussycat Dolls are an American band. It seems stupid but I think the citation would improve the article quality. --KushalClick me! write to me 03:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Black Eyed Peas
I'd just like to know why are the Black Eyed Peas under associated acts? LPMA (talk) 22:56, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Reduce discography
I think the discography in this article is unecessarily detailed, and duplicates the information found at Pussycat Dolls discography. It should be reduced to more basci information. Any consensus on this?--Design (talk) 22:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I would support this change: the discography section here already links to the main article. I don't see why it's necessary to have the same information on two pages, especially when it's more detalied on one of them. Acalamari 22:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

NPOV?
"Pop superstar Britney Spears performed with the Dolls as a surprise guest for the birthday of her brother, Bryan Spears.[citation needed] "

Isn't it more NPOV to write Pop star, or Pop singer? And there's no source...--217.132.89.143 (talk) 23:05, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You are right that it could have been worded better to make it comply with the neutral point of view policy, but since there is no source for that sentence, I've gone ahead and removed it. Acalamari 23:09, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Split
I separated the pop act and the burlesque troupe after finding an old article created a while back. I think it makes it easier to distinguish and separate. CandiceWalsh (talk) 20:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Your split, as it is now, is not an improvement in my opinion. I don't oppose a split per se, but I think you have lost some of the continuity in the history. Carmit Bachar made the transition from the Burlesque troupe into the recording group. My understanding is that the burlesque troupe stopped in 2003 and was "revived" in 2005 with the Las Vegas club show. Let's not forget that Pussycat Dolls is a 'brand' started by Robin Antin, with group members selected by Antin (& others) and hired as employees; they can exist as parallel entities ("franchises", if you will). Just because the recording group is more successful commercially doesn't alter this. Then we have the other diversifications of the brand, with "PCD presents..." TV shows, etc. These shows have minimal connection with the performers in the Burlesque troupe or recording group. Any split pages need to consider this.--Design (talk) 01:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Could someone please reinstate the infobox data about all past members such as Staci Flood? Thanks.--Design (talk) 12:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Updating the photos
I was just wondering if someone could change the first photo in the Pussycat Dolls page. Carmit is already out of the group to pursue a solo career and get busy with the Zodiac Show and some other things and Melody, a current member is not on that photo. Also, a nice photo for each of the Dolls' pages will be great, not the ones where they all look goofy.

I'm new so I have a lot more to learn lol. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HalfCrazy (talk • contribs) 08:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi HalfCrazy, despite the outdatedness of the picture, it's the only free image we have of the Pussycat Dolls at the moment. You see, we can't use what are called "fair-use" images to depict PCD, as they are an active, living band. If you have an updated image that has no copyright issues, then by all means, submit it, but any non-free images or promotional images can't be used. Thanks for your understanding. Acalamari 16:52, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh, okay, thanks, I understand. That's tough lol. Thanks for the help! HalfCrazy (talk) 15:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Category naming
The article is titled "Pussycat Dolls", not "The Pussycat Dolls". In running text, the group is always referred to as "the Pussycat Dolls" (or just "Pussycat Dolls"), not "The Pussycat Dolls". Song titles are disambiguated as "(Pussycat Dolls song)", not "(The Pussycat Dolls song)". But then why are the related categories called Category:The Pussycat Dolls, Category:The Pussycat Dolls songs, etc? The natural Category:Pussycat Dolls songs is even a redirect to Category:The Pussycat Dolls songs, rather than the other way around. I propose to rename the categories in line with the article title, unless there are good arguments to the contrary. Hqb (talk) 09:45, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Given the absence of objections, I'm moving the relevant pages to the "The"-less naming scheme. Hqb (talk) 13:23, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw this when you first commented, and meant to post then. Yes, for the sake of consistency, I agree with the change. Acalamari 19:39, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "Pussycat Dolls" is not the official name of the girl group. As "The Pussycat Dolls", as stated on Geffen Records Website and all others. It is the recording name and artist name of the Pussycat Dolls. So hence forth, I'd be on wait for a reply for 2 days, otherwise I'm changing the edits by Hqb back to "The Pussycat Dolls". Also, they wouldn't put (The Pussycat Dolls) as it is unnecessary for the word, "The". Keeping the copyright of the official and given name of "The Pussycat Dolls" would be rather appropriate. It is unknown why it isn't such (The Pussycat Dolls song) or such. But at the moment, it is quite obvious that this Category naming issue would be a bit of trouble. It is best to keep it back to the original and the artist' name of the group, "The Pussycat Dolls". Whether or not there would be a debate, this is and should be changed back to the official name of the group. Aireii (talk) 03:29, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Is PCD GOING TO REPLACE THE MEMBER?
no the pussycat dolls are not going to replace carmit also known as foxy doll. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.217.170.67 (talk) 18:04, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Article Vandalised - Please Fix
The article has been vandalised. Please Fix. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Attillia (talk • contribs) 08:59, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Reverted by Clark89. Thanks. Acalamari 16:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Doll Domination 2.0 / Revised Edition
This is to clear up the problems and questions people have about the album.

Doll Domination: released in septemeber 2008. As of may 2009 there are several different versions to be noted (do not get them confused)
 * 1) Doll Domination: Standard version.
 * 2) Doll Domination: Standard version with bonus tracks.
 * 3) Doll Domination: Deluxe edition (includes bonus disk of individual doll's songs)
 * 4) Doll Domination: Collectors edition (same as deluxe edition but with two bonus tracks also included).
 * 5) Doll Domination: Revised version French Release, German Release. This IS NOT the same as doll domination 2.0. It is the original album plus the new songs recorded. notice that the cover is the same as the standard version
 * 6) Doll Domination 2.0: this is released ONLY in Australia and is different to revised version HENCE it features a different cover. It is only currently available in AUSTRALIA. no release elsewhere has been official confirmed.
 * 7) Doll Domination: The Mini Collection: was released specifically in the UK and is an EP-compilation of 3 songs from Doll Domination plus 3 new songs.

All of this information is sourced. please do not confused and alter the article. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 17:14, 17 May 2009 (UTC))

Picture
I was just wondering if anyone could change the VERY outdated picture at the top of the page. i would but i don't know how. thanks! 71.238.193.127 (talk) 23:42, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Nicole Scherzinger is no longer with PCD
I heard that Nicole is no longer part of PCD. That is why, she is "featured" in the last 2 singles. Can we put Nicole as a "former member" and no longer a current member of PCD? Pinangjawa (talk) 12:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * There have currently been no good sources to confirm this, other than things said on blogs and gossip sites, and they're note reliable sourced. Acalamari 15:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Read Nicole's page where there is the career section and there is a reference to what her solo career and future with the PCD's is all about and she said in no way are they breaking up. Also she isn't featured the last 2 singles have been Nicole Scherzinger ft. The Pussycat Dolls and I'm pretty sure that's the way that the label is trying to expose her for her solo career because she is recording new material soon for her debut. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Solotwilight (talk • contribs) 02:30, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

hush hush the final pcd song ever?
i've read rumours on various blogs saying that this will be the dolls last single ever and are splitting after the release due to the others being really annoyed about nicole's preferential treatment by the record company. is this just rumours, or is there any truth in it? thanks guys Mister sparky (talk) 19:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * As with the section just above this one, there have been no reliable sources to confirm anything about Nicole Scherzinger leaving or the Pussycat Dolls breaking up: those have only been mentioned on blogs and gossip sites, which aren't reliable sources. Acalamari 23:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Former members section
I'm concerned about the "Former members" section: it's very long, was recently added to, but contains nearly no sources whatsoever. I'm tempted to delete it, but I expect someone to just re-add it without explanation, much like with the unnecessary discography that kept getting added to the "Nicole Scherzinger" article. As a result, I'm discussing this here first. Thoughts? Acalamari 18:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

This section has been without proper references for some time, though the Playboy article should not be too hard to source a proper ref. I think the information is relevant to an encyclopedic article of this type, though the format could be altered to take up less space. I recommend you move the unsourced info to this discussion page until sources can be provided.--Design (talk) 05:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

i am going to take the decision to remove the former members section by Sunday 23 August 2009, because several months on from its tagging there has been no attempt/no success in sourcing this section. It will be moved on to the discussion page instead.(Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:00, 17 August 2009 (UTC))

Dolls alter egos
I think that every Pussycat Doll has their own Doll name. Although in live performances, only Melody who says that she is "Baby Doll" but it is also noted that others have their Dolls name too. As far as I known, their names are:

Nicole = Queen Doll Melody = Baby Doll Jessica = Pin-up Doll Kimberly = Flexy Doll (early name= Punky Doll for her punk hairstyle) Ashley = Angel Doll

although that the rest of them didn't introduce themselves in recent tours, I think that those names are their Doll names. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Forestlicious (talk • contribs) 15:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

none of this is sourced - it is just random trivia and therefore cannot be included. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 18:12, 29 July 2009 (UTC))

August 2009 - Break-up rumours
A REQUEST FOR ALL USERS:

please can we be aware of the rumours flying around about the pussycat dolls splitting up. several well-trafficked websites have reported this: Digitalspy, Perezhilton amongst others. can we be:
 * 1) vigilant that it is not added into the article - its is contentious on-going issue.
 * 2) wait patiently to see if an official STATEMENT is released from the group and/or Robin Antin and/or Interscope records. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 15:47, 2 August 2009 (UTC))

It appears that the group will be staying together after all. it has veeb widely reported by VIRTUALLY ALL music blog sites even perezhilton and Digitalspy that the group's third album is in production. Robin Antin (founder of the group) also forwarded this message on her official TWITTER Page. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 16:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC))

IMPORTANT AUG 2009 - Article Changes
Please can you voice your opinions about the removal of the following:
 * 1) Pussycat Dolls
 * 2) Pussycat Dolls
 * 3) Pussycat Dolls.

I am planning to move those sections on to the dicussion page by Sunday 23 August because little attempt has been made to address the issues and really their inclusion is of questionable relevance and/or there are sourcing isssues. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:03, 17 August 2009 (UTC))
 * Yes, I agree with that: the sections are hardly sourced, and don't even have good sources at that. However, we'll have to make sure the articles on the members themselves are updated to be consistent with this one, otherwise some people will just re-add what you're suggestiong should be removed. Acalamari 20:42, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I think a brief solo careers section, and the former members section are both relevant, but of course they need sources. The politics section is irrelevant as it is based on a throwaway one liner joke.--Design (talk) 10:24, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Unsourced Memebrs
As per consesus, the former members section is now on this page:


 * burlesque group
 * Robin Antin (founder and choreographer, 1995-2005)
 * Christina Applegate (founding member, 1995-2002) (promoted the group's appearances for Maxim)
 * Linh Le (founding member, 1995)
 * Joie Shettler (founding member, 1995)
 * Carla Kama (founding member, 1995)
 * Bethany Chester (founding member, 1995)
 * Lindsley Allen (founding member, 1995-2001) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial)
 * Etty Lau Farrell (1995-1997) (left the group to join the band Jane's Addiction as lead dancer)
 * Carmit Bachar (1995-2003) (able to make it on the music group)
 * Cyia Batten (1995-2003) (able to make it on the music group)
 * Kasey Campbell (1995-2003) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial) (able to make it on the music group)
 * Kiva Dawson (1995-2001) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial)
 * Erica Gudis (1995-2001) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial)
 * Antonietta Macri (1995-2001) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial)
 * Erica Breckels (1995-2001) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial)
 * Katie Bergold (1995-2001) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial)
 * Staci Flood (1995-2003) (rumored to have made it on the music group but refused to join after founding the "Bombshell Babies" with Carmen Electra and Nadine Ellis)
 * Gwen Stefani (2000) (became the first celebrity guest Doll whose performances with the group gained them much fame and popularity)
 * Carmen Electra (2001-2003) (lead vocalist in most performances during late burlesque period) (vocals in the Dolls' early recorded versions of "Fever" and "Hey Big Spender" ) (cameos in "Hush Hush; Hush Hush" music video)
 * Christina Aguilera (2002) (became a guest Doll and promoted the group's appearances for Maxim)
 * Nadine Ellis (2001-2003) (founded burlesque group "Bombshell Babies" with Carmen Electra and Staci Flood)
 * Rachel Sterling (2001-2002) (joined the Las Vegas Pussycat Dolls troupe in 2005)
 * Andre Carra (2001-2002)
 * Erika Le (2001-2002)
 * Chelsea Rafanan (2001-2002)
 * Rebecca Pickering (2001-2002)


 * recording group
 * Carmit Bachar (2003-2008) (also in Burlesque period) (left for a solo career)
 * Cyia Batten (2003-2005) (also in Burlesque period) (appears in "Sway" music video)
 * Kasey Campbell (2003-2005) (also in Burlesque period) (appears in "Sway" music video)
 * Staci Flood (2003) (also in Burlesque period) (cameos in "Don't Cha" music video as the black-haired seventh member dancing with the Dolls)
 * Kaya Jones (2003-2004) (joined along with Nicole and Melody) (vocals in "We Went as Far as We Felt Like Going" & "Sway" on PCD.) (appears in "Sway" music video as a main member with Melody and Carmit) (left before the PCD album was launched)
 * Asia Nitollano (2007) (performed twice with the Dolls on the Pussycat Dolls Present: The Search For the Next Doll finale and The CW 2007 Upfront Party. The Dolls were supposed to cover the song "Lady Marmalade" to officially welcome Asia to the group as a new vocalist but it is not publicly known if she left for a solo career before doing the recordings or was dismissed from the group)

it can be re-added one-by-one as a source is found, e.g. if a source confirms the info. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 20:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC))

I heard on the radio recently on September 04 that they had officially broken up. It could be just the radio or more rumors but it said it on the radio so I don't know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.234.184.240 (talk) 21:47, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Opening para
I posted this at User:Journalist's talk page:
 * Hello, Regarding your recent edits to Pussycat Dolls- Kaya Jones was in the recording group and her vocals appear on at least 2 tracks on PCD, so under your criteria she qualifies as an ex-member. Secondly I think you should discuss at the talk page your recent revert of the opening para. I think the franchise description is accurate and we should avoid stating or inplying that th recording group is the only entity. I agree that it is currently the primary entity.--Design (talk) 09:56, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Antin did NOT negotiated a record deal
I disagree with this line: "After attracting national attention, Antin eventually negotiated a record deal with Interscope Records in 2003..." Carmit Bachar was friends with Gwen Stefani and Gwen later brought Interscope to the Pussycat Dolls show. So it should be something like "former member Carmit Bachar eventually negotiated a record deal with Interscope Records..."

Also, in 2003-2005: Casting and musical debut, the order of the singing roles should be like in the album credits: Nicole Scherzinger, Carmit Bachar, Melody Thornton, Jessica Sutta, Ashley Roberts, Kimberly Wyatt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beep90 (talk • contribs) 15:14, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Rumored line-up change
I've just removed an addition sourced by Twitter that stated that Kimberly Wyatt had left and somebody called Jennifer Beckett has joined the group. Is there a better source to confirm this than Twitter? Acalamari 16:20, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Neither Digital Spy or Hollywood Gossip have anything about Kimberly's departure from the Dolls, though on the website PCD World, there's a video of Robin's interview in which she says that "expect new faces" and "we'll lose some of the old dolls" (or something)--David (talk) 18:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

December 2009
I have proceeded to copy edit the whole article including removing extrenuous detail and better organise information. I have also sourced the paragraphy titled Present. Are we happy with the results? Lil-unique1 (talk) 01:23, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Pussycat Dolls(You Are My Destiny) !
i suppose that we need a separate page article for the "Pussycat Dolls(You Are My Destiny)" cuz this is the one that made the chart's & not the Hindi version so pointing to the Hindi version wont prove good. -- Doctor muthu's muthu wanna talk ? 01:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Carmit Bachar former member
I think Carmit Bachar and her post pcd career should be mentioned in the former members section, as she was in the group the longest and Asia nitollano is mentioned despite having performed with them twice! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.22.125.233 (talk) 18:21, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Melody Thornton
(I'm from Holland so excuse me for my mistakes) Melody Thornton her name stands by 'Former members', but it saids: (2003-present), and her page saids that she and Nicole are the only left members, so I think Melody should stand by Members? I can't change it myself so I thought I would place it here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.75.47.237 (talk) 09:13, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from TopinkaFSS, 22 May 2010
hi, just wanna update pcd members - new lineup already appeared, thx :)

TopinkaFSS (talk) 21:20, 22 May 2010 (UTC)


 * ❌ see comments above. If you have any questions please respond below. Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:25, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

New PCD revealed!!!
The new line-up has been revealed by Robin Antin, anyone care to update it now???? (Alexshunn (talk) 19:48, 22 May 2010 (UTC))


 * ❌ twitter is not a verified source for something like this which changes the whole nature of the article. Also its not confirmed. I've searched her twitter and all she says is Nicole and the Dolls. It could have been a PCD Lounge performance as Pussycat Dolls: The Burlseque Troupe still exist as a dance group. Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:50, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I know this, but also, if you go to Jamie Ruiz twitter, she is congratulated by a fan, and thanks them for their support in the group. Also, in another tweet she says "The Pussycat Dolls" performed at a secret gig. Shouldn't this be atleast adressed. And for Twitter not a verified source? It came from their words? (Alexshunn (talk) 20:03, 22 May 2010 (UTC))


 * I see what you mean but its too many ifs and buts. Also twitter is self-published. If your still unsure see WP:Verifiable. Unless it catches media attention then no until its confirmed by other sources.Lil-unique1 (talk) 20:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok! thankyou for clearing that up for me! (Alexshunn (talk) 20:12, 22 May 2010 (UTC))

The lineup has been changed again according to the members, two have already been replaced. You can find the sources on their twitters and they have pictures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.185.81 (talk) 12:50, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Telephone Video
Wasn't the PCD dance troupe in Lady Gaga's "Telephone" music video during the jail dance scene? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.33.191 (talk) 05:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

2009-2010- Hiatus and line up change
Should we shorten it down when they will release their new album, or can we do it now?? --MazurJacek (talk) 10:29, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

It does need shortening but i suggest waiting until the recent events have settled down. I suggest you make a sandbox at User:MazurJacek/Pussycat Dolls (click on the link then click create page). The copy the relevant sections. Work on them at your leisure and then when you think your done let me know and i can give you a second opinion before we replace the text here. Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 14:12, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok! --MazurJacek (talk) 15:00, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Typing error in "2010" paragraph needs correcting
Could someone please correct "... the exisitng members ..." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.235.188.138 (talk) 23:02, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Nicole leaving??
On Nicole's wikipedia page it says that she is leaving the pussycat dolls after her contractual commitments to the PCD album are up. Is this true or just a rumor? And if it is true who will be taking over lead vocals if nicole leaves the group? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.49.194.48 (talk • contribs)

This has been confirmed "On December 5 2010, Nicole Scherzinger, the lead singer of The Pussycat Dolls, announced that she is leaving the band to concentrate on her solo career and acting projects. Scherzinger follows the four other members - Kimberly Wyatt, Melody Thornton, Jessica Sutta and Ashley Roberts in exiting the group." (last.fm - which also lists the group as having split up) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.102.10 (talk) 17:17, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Fanmade Picture in the Infobox
Would someone please remove this fanmade picture from the infobox. That's definitely fake because 1. the dolls don't call themselves "The Pussycat Dolls" anymore, they dropped the "the" since "I Don't Need a Man" 2. the "The Pusscat Dolls" line is identical with the line on the cover of PCD 3. this "Double the Trouble" line looks so selfmade 4. where's Asia? I thought she's part of the group so why isn't she on this photo from "June 2007"?

1. It is my understanding that they are still called The Pussycat Dolls 2/3. Ooookay... 4. "She (Asia) only performed with the Dolls again once at the CW Upfronts Event in New York City, and shortly after, she announced her departure from the group to pursue a solo career." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.102.10 (talk) 17:20, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

New dolls
I removed the "new dolls" from the current members list because it has been confirmed by Nicole that she is the only current member.

Why is Nicole still a member of the Pussycat Dolls? And why aren't the new Dolls mentioned anywhere?--188.96.191.12 (talk) 10:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Nicole Scherzinger is no part part of the Pussycat Dolls when she confirmed her departure since Dec 2010. As of March 2010, new dolls have been recruited to back Nicole up. They are Rino Nakasone Razalan, Jamie Lee Ruiz, Vanessa Curry and Kherington Payne. The new dolls have not been mentioned anywhere as the group has not made any official public appearance. By end of 2010, Kherington Payne decided to leave the PCD band to join "DANCE RECITAL". Pussycat dolls currently lack a singer. New dolls may be casted in due time. It is believed that Francesca Ramirez who is the lead singer of Pussycat Dolls Burlesque Review (Spin off group) may be transferred over to lead the current group that consists of only 3 members as mentioned above as of 2011. Solo artiste Melissa Reyes who was the runner up in the PCD's search for the new doll which aired on television in 2007 could be added to the current line up (Rino, Jamie and Vanessa) to add vocal strength to the group if Francesca is brought in as the lead singer. There are also a few shake ups in the members of other girl groups created by PCD founder Robin Antin. Her band 'Paradiso Girls' has been dissolved and 'Girlicious' only has one member left standing after the recent departure of Natalie Meija and Chrystina Sayers. Robin Antin so far has kept mum over such happenings and things are under wraps for now. It is unconfirmed if those former members of Paradiso Girls and Girlicious will be transferred over to the PCD band.

Recently, the new lineup of pussycat dolls are back working on an assignment. The production of a second fitness DVD. On 3rd March 2011, the photo-shoot for the DVD began. This DVD includes the dolls, Rino Nakasone Razlan, Jamie Lee Ruiz, Vanessa Curry, Michelle Jersey Maniscalso and Robin Antin herself. This information on the photo-shoot and DVD production is officially stated on Jersey's twitter account, under the name @jerseyluv7. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.18.227 (talk) 02:32, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Disbandment
I'm not sure what the rules are regarding when its ok to call a band disbanded. But what do we make of these following stories: and  --  Lil_ ℧ niquℇ № 1  [talk]  18:08, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Robin Antin has to say that the Dolls are over, she said it by herself.--MazurJacek (talk) 20:00, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Likewise those are my thoughts. Yet Scherzinger does appear to confirm she's quit the band. She that be mentioned? That Antin is looking for new memebers and none of the current line-up are set to turn but that the band has not officially disbanded. --  Lil_ ℧ niquℇ № 1  [talk]  21:35, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, if your asking a question...???--MazurJacek (talk) 18:17, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Nicole has confirmed that she quit, yet she's still listed as a member.

True, Robin herself has to announce any kind of disbandment, but it's already been made clear that Nicole is no longer part of the group. She should be listed under "Former Members". 130.126.107.106 (talk) 02:39, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

As for the group, Antin has begun searching for new members, including a new lead singer [...--MazurJacek (talk) 14:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

What I meant was, should we mention that Nicole has quit the band so although the band has no members, it has not disbanded because Antin is searching for new members? --  Lil_ ℧ niquℇ № 1  [talk]  16:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes ok!!--MazurJacek (talk) 22:32, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Nicole Scherzinger confirmed on the British TV show Loose Women that Pussycat Dolls have split up.

Bandmembers
Why is Nicole still a member of the Pussycat Dolls? And why aren't the new Dolls mentioned anywhere?--188.96.191.12 (talk) 10:42, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Nicole Scherzinger is no longer a part of the Pussycat Dolls when she confirmed her departure since Dec 2010. As of March 2010, new dolls have been recruited to back Nicole up. They are Rino Nakasone Razalan, Jamie Lee Ruiz, Vanessa Curry and Kherington Payne. The new dolls have not been mentioned anywhere as the group has not made any official public appearance. By end of 2010, Kherington Payne decided to leave the PCD band to join "DANCE RECITAL". Pussycat dolls currently lack a singer. New dolls may be casted in due time. It is believed that Francesca Ramirez who is the lead singer of Pussycat Dolls Burlesque Review (Spin off group) may be transferred over to lead the current group that consists of only 3 members as mentioned above as of 2011. Solo artiste Melissa Reyes who was the runner up in the PCD's search for the new doll which aired on television in 2007 could be added to the current line up (Rino, Jamie and Vanessa) to add vocal strength to the group if Francesca is brought in as the lead singer. There are also a few shake ups in the members of other girl groups created by PCD founder Robin Antin. Her band 'Paradiso Girls' has been dissolved and 'Girlicious' only has one member left standing after the recent departure of Natalie Meija and Chrystina Sayers. Robin Antin so far has kept mum over such happenings and things are under wraps for now. It is unconfirmed if those former members of Paradiso Girls and Girlicious will be transferred over to the PCD band.

Recently, the new lineup of pussycat dolls are back working on an assignment. The production of a second fitness DVD. On 3rd March 2011, the photo-shoot for the DVD began. This DVD includes the dolls, Rino Nakasone Razlan, Jamie Lee Ruiz, Vanessa Curry, Michelle Jersey Maniscalso and Robin Antin herself. This information on the photoshoot and DVD production is officially stated on Jersey's twitter account, under the name @jerseyluv7. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.18.227 (talk) 02:29, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Audition
Via Facebook, an audition for new lead singers, dancers is confirmed by Robin Antin. It is around at noon March 29 at Centerstaging Studio 11 3407 Winona Ave Burbank CA, 91504

Here is an article to back this up. http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/celebrities/2011/03/17/17655341-wenn-story.html Jpagan09 (talk) 04:08, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Nicole has left the group: Please fix this article and provide some sources
I just realised that I couldn't find a single information about Nicole's departure from the group. All I found was that her position is still secure yet she is listed down under "Past Members".

Somebody please fix this entire article because people will get confused when they read that Nicole is still in the group but is listed under "Past Members". Hope that people can provide some sources that proves that she did leave the group please? Thanks. Blueknightex (talk) 08:19, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I was just going to post the same thing. However, the official PCD website has updated and it shows a casting call for new members. --Shadow (talk) 05:25, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Remove Photo????
I think you should remove the photo as all the members in the photo are gone from the band —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.116.26 (talk) 16:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter. They were what we knew PCD as!! &mdash;  Lil_ ℧ niquℇ № 1  [talk]  16:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

third line-up
The third line-up should be listed being that (Scherzinger,Jamie L. Ruiz,Vanesa Curry,Rino Nakasone-Razalan and Kherington Payne) were the dolls at the time of 2010 after the exit of dolls (Melody Thornton,Kimberly Wyatt,Jessica Sutta and Ashley Roberts).Also it should be writing in (2011–present: New line-up) that J.L Ruiz is the only known doll at the moment being that she is in fact part of the new fourth line-up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santiagokdasilva1 (talk • contribs) 13:26, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Jamie Lee Ruiz Page
Ok can someone please write who ruiz is because im tring to make her page and someone is irrasing it WHEN im editing it, so if you guys arent going to write information about her here than let me finish doing my page of her!

¡ANSWER!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santiagokdasilva1 (talk • contribs) 17:29, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Assessment comment
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