Talk:The Quick and the Dead (1995 film)

Not in the American Version
I cut this line from the plot:

"She returns later to rescue Cort from being beaten up in a tavern. While he was having a one-sided conversation with her she strips and seduces him in her room, with the two sleeping together."

...since it isn't in the American version of the story, and because that sticking point in the plot is discussed later in the article. Since it doesn't seem like a very important story point, I figured it was easier to remove it, then to explain it. To be nice, though, I added the scene where the Lady talks to the town doctor in the cemetery outside of town, since that does move the plot forward. Jmgariepy (talk) 10:49, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like you haven't actually seen the version of The Quick and the Dead that plays in Europe. Sharon Stone's character The Lady = Ellen needs to convince Cort to be a part of her plan to defeat Herod, so she breaks in to where he is held captive and gives him a blowjob. That is, in movie continuity terms, convincing; if Superman can fly, then a Sharon Stone blowjob can change your mind no matter what. Cort will totally go along with her plans. Total success in the end. You made up, or eupehmized, this "... with the two sleeping together." summary. The real life Sharon Stone had the blowjob deleted from the finished film before release; just my opinion, but cutting that action out caused the movie to make no sense. I realize that it makes no sense for Cort to abandon his dearly held principles just because of a blowjob, but hey, this is the movies, ie in terms of the movie it makes sense, in the sense of "If you say so." But just leaving it out, it's almost like a blooper, like "Huh?" One minute this character Cort is deadset against any violence or insurrection or whatever and the next thing you know know, he's an assassin and a terrorist -- for no reason. Well, the movie gave a reason -- he got a blowjob from Sharon Stone! (They don't actually show fellatio; he's tied to a post in a hotel room, she starts with her mouth up around his face and works her way down, but the camera only follows the back of her head to around belt level or so. Hence, blowjob.) Incidentally, I screened The Quick and the Dead at a big theater in San Francisco when it was released, I think it was the Alhambra. But I did not see how it ended; I stalked out when Gene Hackman shot Leonardo Decaprio, who plays his son, a young man of twenty or so (Sharon Stone's Ellen and Leonardo Dicaprio's Kid spend the night together, apparently quite nicely; but in the morning, Sharon Stone looks him over fondly and says, in the best line ever in ANY movie, "Don't start planning the wedding.") That crosses over the line, Herod gunning down his son. Just my heartfelt opinion. I have never made my peace with that, a man killing his own son in a movie; but as a film buff, let me say that High Plains Drifter is the best movie of any kind ever made with Konstantin Stanislavski agreeing with me one hundred percent; and that The Quick and the Dead is a movie not to be missed (but only if you can get hold of the European version, the one with the blowjob.)Richard8081 (talk) 15:14, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Spoilers
What happened to the Wikipedia spoiler warning tag? The tournament chart in this article spoils the entire movie in one glance. That's kind of stupid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Babylonian007 (talk • contribs) 07:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


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Cort
Nice article. One question though. Had Cort not become a Roman Catholic priest? Would the article read better that way or as a missionary? Thanks, :) Dlohcierekim 13:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Christian Themes
I am a huge fan of the film and appreciate this article. One of the films greatest (and most understated) strengths is the obvious christian overtones. == For example, it is true that Ace Hanlon looks like Wild Bill Hickock, but he also looks alot like Jesus. Herod (Oh my god!) guns him down after Hanlon performs a dangerous trick shot involving a little girl holding a playing card (Ursatz "miracle"?) Herod makes a point of taunting Hanlon in between shots by lighting his cigar (Raimi stresses the fire of the match- Satan?) Herod Finally guns Hanlon down. (The devil defeating the False Prophet The entire Movie plays out like this, and I believe it would be worth mentioning briefly. Just something to think about. Thanks 158.70.24.167 19:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

List?
Is it really necessary to go through and list every minor character? The article would be a lot better if these could be incorporated into more of a plot outline, even losing some of the less important details (why does it matter exactly where each person was shot?) Oogabooga 00:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Scientific implausability?
Judging by the performances, the cinematography, and the overall style, I don't think this film is really trying to adhere to any kind of real-world rules. It's a hyper-stylized comic book western, and as such this moment is totally in keeping with that. Noting the scientific inaccuracy of it misses the whole point of the film.DailyRich 14:32, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Pool of Characters..........imotions
dispite of being an over stylized comic book depictation, this movie was striking to me. most of the times i watch all the drama movies which tend to aggrevate my cynical state of mind.......but this one is absolute time pass........do not fire up your thoughts......just watch and enjoy.....and later you will find its all right.

the most difficult aspect about this movie would have been the massive pool of character in it and to carry them through smoothly. this movie does that very well...............along with it its a pool of imotions too. The most imotional scene in the movie would be the one in which the kid dies.....though he doest get the respect from his father.....he gets respect from the people......he dies a hero. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.162.48.91 (talk) 04:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

The complete cast of The Quick and The Dead should include one of the missing

"councillors". The role was played by Dale Greenlee and was pictured with the henchmen.

Thanks for the credit. 67.219.71.227 (talk) 01:59, 19 March 2014 (UTC)