Talk:The Rape of Lucrece

Tagged for tone
The article reads somewhat like an essay on the poem instead of an article about it. The article Venus and Adonis (Shakespeare poem) is a good model for this one.


 * I agree: verbiage like this – "The linguistic excess of Shakespeare’s Lucrece is indicative of a new poetics in which the materiality of language itself disrupts a rhetorical tradition oriented toward pure idealisation" – should be kept behind closed post-structuralist doors. Ericoides (talk) 20:54, 9 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Rephrased tagged section for greater clarity. Trixi72 (talk) 15:04, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Other raped women?
Who are Shakespeare's other raped women? I think that should be in there. I honestly can't think of any. Closest I get is the near-rape at the end of Two Gentlemen of Verona. Wrad 19:04, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Titus's daughter, I guess. Paul B 01:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, I just read that today, any others? Wrad 03:45, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I guess Miranda is nearly raped by Caliban in The Tempest. Wrad 18:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


 * the classic stage direction might be the way to include Lavinia: "Enter the empress' sons with Lavinia, her hands cut off, and her tongue cut out, and ravish'd" - Titus Andronicus. Act II, scene IV. - Nunh-huh 01:57, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Allusion in Twelfth Night
In Act 2 Scene v of Twelfth Night, Maria has penned a false love letter from (as he is meant to surmise) Malvolio's mistress & sealed it with her Lucrece. Presumably, this is an antique pagan seal image intaglio perhaps set in a ring. The Lucrece pagan myth may actually pun on Maria (as in the Virgin Mary of Christianity) but only through an heretical twist on the rape. 124.188.100.155 (talk) 09:49, 2 June 2014 (UTC) Ian Ison

The "Raped Woman" section
I removed “The raped woman” section. It is unsourced original research, and has been tagged for a long time. The content of the brief section is: “Lucrece is described as if she were a work of art. Tarquin's rape of her is described as if she were a fortress under attack—conquering her various physical attributes. Although Lucrece is raped, the poem offers an apology to absolve her of guilt (lines 1240–1246). [sic] Like Shakespeare's other raped women, Lucrece gains symbolic value: through her suicide, her body metamorphoses into a political symbol.” Oxcross (talk) 11:52, 2 October 2016 (UTC)