Talk:The Real News Network

Requested move
This article should be renamed/moved to The Real News. The organization may have started out as IWT, but nowadays they present themselves almost exclusively as The Real News. There's not even a separate IWT website anymore: iwtnews.com now redirects to therealnews.com --The Wild Falcon 08:24, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I moved Independent World Television to The Real News. --The Wild Falcon 08:31, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:RealNews logo.JPG
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Advertising, government or corporate funding
The current lead says the TRN "aims" at being free from "advertising, government or corporate funding". That is inaccurate, it is already free of them.--Sum (talk) 09:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Funded by "members" or "supporters"?


It seems to me that "members" implies an access on content based on membership. Instead, the independence between giving donations and liberty on content access is better stated using the term "supporters". Which you think is the better wording?--Sum (talk) 14:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * In my mind "supporters" is more accurate. MarkkuP (talk) 18:22, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, The Real News is a reliable source
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 * Cool. Xavexgoem (talk) 02:57, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Proposed move to The Real News Network
Technically, they're the real news network. I'm proposing a move (and a disambig). Aye? Nay? Xavexgoem (talk) 04:17, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I would say "aye", especially as their logo includes the word "Network". I assume that links to the old page will take people to the disambig page, right? AlanUS (talk) 20:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Outlook
My first impression, following the news from The Real News, is that the channel is slightly leftward-leaning. Two of the major interview series, for example, have been with Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn. Perhaps it would be worth it to mention that in the article. No? MarkkuP (talk) 22:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I also noticed the liberal views but they're subtle. They'll do a lot of interviews with union leaders and marxist economists. They make it seem like they're just asking questions, but they don't seem to interview the other side. Since they are a completely independent news source, I would have expected them to be more fair and balanced. 71.242.46.116 (talk) 18:59, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I think this is a painfully simplistic black/white way of evaluating them. For example, in their coverage on health care, they were extremely critical of Obama's administration. Rather than using generalised terms with very little concrete meaning (i.e. left/right or conversative/liberal) focus on the individual reports and what you believe to have been left out. Of course, by doing this, I think it will demonstrate your biases much more than it will theirs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.74.111.136 (talk) 13:17, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

In fairness to them there are several reasons for this outlook rather then outright bias, one rationale for this could be that usually the mainstream media goes in the opposite direction on many issues, also it could be that Marxist economists and academics are more prepared to contribute to the Real News as their willing to have them on the show and the idea of an independant news network apeals to them. Theres also the need to draw attention and get noticed and thats very hard to do if your taking the same lines as well established and larger media outlets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.237.199.247 (talk) 16:05, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

"usually the mainstream media goes in the opposite direction on many issues"

Actually, the mainstream media ALWAYS go in the opposite direction on ALL issues. ---Dagme (talk) 02:32, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Sophisticated referencing etc
I tried to edit this and found it difficult to stop the computer treating my edit as a footnote. Wikipedia should be generally editable, therefore I removed as many of the complicated tags as I could to make the article editably for non-expert Wikipedians. This is the last version before I started editing. Please check that I haven't inadvertantly removed anything important. Proxima Centauri 2 (talk) 17:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've added inline references to the article body text, but this time they are shorter ( just the reference lable is speciefied ). Are they more editor-friendly now?--Sum (talk) 11:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've made several small edits successfully. Proxima Centauri (talk) 15:19, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Who is on the board?
The list of board members is clearly out of date since Howard Zinn died in January. I've changed the article to list him as 'formerly' on the board, but someone should look into what has happened to its composition since then. Schoenheit von Vogelsang (talk) 02:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

This sounds impartial...not
Who added the following? A RealNews staff member or somebody simply copying material from their website?

We also have a contract with TiVo that puts The Real News channel in one million households across the USA. Other content partnerships (including dedicated apps for cell phones) will push our video news service to millions of people.

"We" and "our" are not the product of independent editors. Allreet (talk) 17:59, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

What happened to Pail Jay?
Why can I find no talk on either this article or paul jay? The only thing I have read on this obviously significant topic is the Naked Capitalism article from a year ago Tokyoprogressive (talk) 04:19, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Request for edit to update this article

 * What I think should be changed (include citations):

The article needs to be updated to reflect organizational developments over the past few years, and to better capture some of The Real News Network's programming and staff.

In June of 2020, John Duda (COI disclosure: me!) became the organization's new Executive Director.

In October of 2020, Maximillian Alvarez became Editor-in-Chief, bringing with him a renewed editorial focus on the amplification of working-class voices.

The article could be updated to better highlight some of the work of long-time staff at the organization, including:
 * Former Black Panther Marshall "Eddie" Conway, who, after 44 years of incarceration, became the host and producer of "Rattling the Bars," a weekly Youtube investigation of the prison system in the US and beyond.
 * Reporters Taya Graham and Stephen Janis' work on the "Police Accountability Report," a weekly Youtube program uncovering stories of police misconduct across the United States. Their work led to a feature-length documentary, The Friendliest Town, on the backlash experienced by a Black police chief attempting reform in a historically white-dominated rural Maryland Town.
 * Reporter Jaisal Noor's feature series on worker cooperatives and the response to the COVID-19 pandemic, which was supported by the Solutions Journalism Network.

Full information about the current staff and mission can be found on The Real News Network's website.


 * Why it should be changed:

As the current Executive Director at The Real News, I can say definitively that the page as is quite out of date, and includes many things that are simply no longer true. It also focuses almost entirely on people who are no longer part of the organization, with very little useful information about the organization's current activities or staff. I respect Wikipedia's COI policy, though, so I can't make these edits myself!

Johnfduda (talk) 17:26, 13 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Johnfduda. I've addressed a few of these requests - not all, as press releases and primary sources are not considered reliable according to Wikipedia policy. I've removed some subsections in the article to bring it more in line with Wikipedia format, and rewritten the language to be more neutral. I've also replace and removed unreliable sources, and removed uncited statements. I didn't remove the primary sources flag - I'll have another independent editor review the changes and the flag.22:37, 12 July 2022 (UTC) Oceans87 (talk) 22:37, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Johnfduda (talk) 17:22, 26 August 2022 (UTC)