Talk:The Ring (2002 film)/Archive 1

If you rewind on the DVD
hahah, someone change that.
 * Could you also possibly use the word subsequently a few more times in the synopsis? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.69.179 (talk) 15:46, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Who's Noah?
The plot says "Samara kills Noah;". Who's Noah ? Jay 15:43, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The guy who dies during the last sequence of the film, i.e. Aidan's father. 65.145.213.126 06:31, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup?
Can anyone provide rationale behind the marking of this article for cleanup? 65.145.213.126 06:30, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I just added a few changes.
About the true story behing the ring, and that it is an original story (a true one) not a remake. I figured I'd do this since I am on my 4th day after watching the tape, and the burns are becoming unbearable. I fear noone will tail me.

Go to www.ringscommunities.com

uh, what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.217.117.234 (talk) 22:17, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Er...
Why does The Ring redirect here? That's completely ridiculous. john k 01:26, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Why shouldn't it? What should it direct to instead? Mdwh 01:59, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Der Ring des Nibelungen is at least as well known as this recent film. It should point to the disambiguation page. john k 02:20, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * And yet, "The Ring" is simply a nickname for Der Ring des Nibelungen. The S 03:37, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I was disappointed to find that it doesn't redirect here. And as far as Wagner is concerned, I'm with Mark Twain .... "Wagner's music is much better than it sounds" ...  Gardener of Geda  | Message Me.... 01:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks:To any and all that helped write the synopsis for The Ring, good on you folks. I only happened to see this movie after getting home from work one morning. The description was exactly as I had seen the movie. I've since bought this on DVD. Good on ya's!!. :)

billy and mandy
the ring appears in the grim adventures of billy and mandy. billy rents a video, plays it. a ring appears and a chupacabra pops out of the TV and starts to suck on billy's nose. can someone add this to the refrences in pop culture part? (I dont know how.)

Ok, sure I'll add it. AquafireGal 05:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

But that's original research, no? And original research is against the rules. Ketsuekigata 22:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

This is the first Japanse movie that have been remade by americans ?
It said "This is the first Japanse movie that have been remade by americans" is that ture.

Clearly not. The Magnificent Seven springs to mind. Should be removed, I would have thought.


 * 'The Magnificent Seven' is based on Kurosawa's 'The Seven Samurai', but it's certainly not a remake. --80.133.184.43 (talk) 11:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The Ring 3
what happened to the article on The Ring 3??

Character's name
Aiden or Aidan? Which one is the real name of the boy from the film? We should change the two into one —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Vinx (talk • contribs) 05:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Merge with Ring Trilogy
I believe they are part of each other, no? --Amaraiel 05:29, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

no —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.61.114.219 (talk) 00:33, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * nope.--ArnoldPettybone 02:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

No... absolutely wrong —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Vinx (talk • contribs) 03:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No. Lazyguythewerewolf . Rawr. 22:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:The ring poster2.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I removed the statement about Aiden being psycic because of his drawing his cousans death prior to her dieing due to the fact that in the movie he states he knew she was going to die because his cousin told him as much. At no point in the movie does he have or display psycic abilities. 71.197.235.108 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 06:07, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Official site
Hey the official site for this and the sequel have been taken down. Althogh, there is still and "ENTER HERE" link when clicked it say the domain does not exist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.82.39 (talk) 20:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Why "The Ring"?
Why was the movie named "The Ring"? There wasn't anything in the plot suggesting a ring in any definition of the word, no? --Yashowardhani (talk) 14:39, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Ringu
Ringu wasn't released in theaters when The Ring was in theaters, but appeared on DVD around the DVD release of The Ring

What's Ringu?--Will2k 04:58, 1 July 2006 (UTC) the original film is ringu

Plot summary
I've removed the plot tag from the plot summary, which in my opinion is readable and, at 600 words, not excessively long for an article on this subject. --Tony Sidaway 02:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

References in Popular Culture
The Ring is an American remake of a Japanese movie, which was influenced by Japanese folklore. Please stop putting Japanese works under "References in Popular Culture." Also, no original research, please.

Ketsuekigata 00:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

You are wrong. Ringu is based on the book "Ring" by Koji Suzuki. There are references to Asian (they are not exclusively Japanese) folklore in all of the movies, but the book itself is not based on such. The book is about a virus, not a ghost per say. Sadako was also a fully grown woman, not to mention a hermaphrodite, who was raped and killed by a doctor infected with IIRC small pocks. This combined with her DNA to form the Ring Virus. The plot of the movie Ringu is quite different from that of the book, although many of the names and the general storyline remained unchanged. As an example of the character similarities, Asakawa, the main character in Ringu, was actually a man in the book. I am adding the proper credit to Mr. Suzuki and his novel. My citation is the credits to both movies clearly indicate the they were based on this science fiction novel. Next time do some research.

I have also removed a line and placed it here. This line is more appropriate in describing the book. As someone pointed out, she is an evil spirit in the movies. Ringu 2 says Sadako's father was a spirit from the sea and we can tell she is a spirit (ghost) in the films. Her appearance is consistent with ghosts in Asian culture. In any case neither is explained in the American remake. Since it follows the movie Ringu closer than the book and the book and the movie are different in their story, I don't think it belongs in this article, which is about the American remake. Perhaps a new article about the whole series, but not here.

The film is a modern example of an ancient cultural meme, the motif of harmful sensation.

I wanted to mention that on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart, he once made fun of the Mike Gravel campaign video (the one where Mike Gravel is just staring into the camera) by saying "after watching this video, 7 days later you die!". I can't seem to find a link for reference, but I feel it's worthy to add this reference. -- Kageskull 03:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.87.90 (talk)

Questionable implications re: originality
"The Ring represents something of a turning point in American horror films, in that, first, it opened the way for American remakes of Japanese horror films (see: The Grudge). Secondly, it dealt with a folkloric entity, in this case a vengeful ghost, where most American horror films that focus on supernatural entities focus on the devil (see: The Exorcist or The Omen)."

Vampires, werewolves, zombies and ghosts have been featured in American horror films since the dawn of time.
 * Seconded. Freddy, Jason, Michael Myers, Pinhead ... The Devil is the exception in American supernatural horror for the last three decades.  I'm editing this, anyone opposed feel to edit or discuss more. :)  &mdash;  Hobart 22:34, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually vampires, werewolves, zombies and ghosts have only been featured in American horror films since the dawn of cinema. There's no evidence of American horror films (or any films from any other country) before this time.--In Defense of the Artist (talk) 15:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Disagreed. The character of "Samara Morgan" is a born evil spirit (when the natural mother Evelyn tries to drown it in water. Samara is shown to have no biological father....So there is an indication of a supernatural entity..Also, the little girl is shown as evil when the horses die...in essence, the picture conveyed is that of an evil spirit that had entered the human world in the form of a girl, seeking revenge for having been killed..

Does not waver from the traditional American plot of devil and evil spirits..


 * Well, if you go back to the charachter of Yamamura Sadako, you'd know that she was a human daughter of a human woman. This human woman killed herself, because she believed she had supernatural powers but when she wanted to show people they accused her for being a fraud. So, if you really go back. Yamamura Sadako is a human girl, but with supernatural power of creating images (nensha). She is revenging for her wrongfully death by her FATHER. Then she came back through the videotape.


 * I maybe strayed from the core of this discussion, but I wanted to show that she's been a human having Nensha. Omernos 14:10, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

The artical does not state the age certificate. please can someone put it in ...

Stretching the Tape
Can someone lend credibility (or debunk) the thing in the movie where "stretches" the image of the tape by slowing it down...or something...it was a confusing explanation in the movie and didn't seem to make much sense. Were we merely supposed to suspend our disbelief or is that something that can be explained more clearly? --In Defense of the Artist (talk) 16:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Plot changes
Edwin, I've reverted your plot changes a few times now, so I thought I'd explain myself here on the talk page. Your changes are unecessary, confusing, and misleading.

"Her research leads her to identify the woman on the tape named Anna Morgan, a horse breeder"

- This is incorrect. This means Rachel already knew the woman on the tape was called Anna Morgan. The previous version ("Her research leads her to identify the woman on the tape: a horse breeder, Anna Morgan") was correct.

"Leaving Aidan in Ruth's care, Rachel heads for Moesko Island to speak to Anna's widower, Richard Morgan."

- Why did you remove this text? We now have no idea who Richard is when he is introduced later in the plot summary (" When she meets Richard in Moesko Island...")

"missing footage of a therapy session of Samara, who is implied to have killed her parents' horses using her powers."

- this kind of phrasing ("is implied to have...") is 1. unecessarily verbose 2. not the right way to write plot summaries, as it projects your own personal interpretation. The previous version ("Samara ... implies she killed the horses") was OK. Popcornduff (talk) 09:25, 19 April 2017 (UTC)