Talk:The Rite of Spring

Most recorded classical repertoire?
Hi there. I understand under the "recordings" section, it is noted that it is the most recorded 20th century classical repertoire, I have no objection to that. Yet in the intro paragraph it simply said it was one of the most recorded repertoire in classical music. I find this statement will require very strong and much more comprehensive citations. I would suggest changing it to "one of the most recorded 20th century classical music" to be consistent with the citation. I also do not believe that there is any way to reliably track the number of recordings out there, and if so, what number of recording counts as "one of the most recorded" (top 10? top 50?) Let me know your thoughts. Thank you. Kazuha1029 (talk) 23:20, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I find WorldCat a useful and reliable guide. One has to be on the look-out for duplicate reissues, of course, but with that caveat I suggest you look there.  Tim riley  talk   15:30, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, so I played around with the website. Could you kindly explain how the editor arrived at the conclusion that Rite of Spring is indeed "one of the most recorded" music? What is the methodology? You also did not address my concern that there is no way to effectively rank the number of recordings or reliably classify them. "most recorded" is also a vague term as it could mean top 3, top 10, top 50, top 100, etc. My recommendation is to change it to "most recorded 20th century classical music". Please let me know your thoughts. Kazuha1029 (talk) 15:19, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I cannot answer your question about the main author's thought processes as to my sorrow and that of countless other Wikipedians he died a year or so ago, and is still sorely missed. Let us see if there is consensus among other editors in favour of your proposed alteration, but a quick Googling throws up numerous references to the Rite as one of the most recorded works: see, for example, p. 18 here   Tim riley  talk   15:42, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Martial-v-marital
An IP altered this: "One of the young girls is selected by fate, being twice caught in the perpetual circle, and is honoured as the "Chosen One" with a martial dance" to change "martial" to "marital". I reverted the change but on second thoughts unreverted it. I'm not at all sure which is appropriate here, and would be glad of other editors' thoughts.  Tim riley  talk   13:41, 17 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I'd suggest we just say she's honoured with a dance. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Am meeting SchroCat, Ian Rose and Cassianto this evening at the Wehwalt Arms, where many happy hours were spent in the company of Brian Boulton, onlie begetter of this article. We shall raise a glass to him.  Tim riley  talk   14:52, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Well I don't think a marriage is part of the story at all, so 'marital' seems out of place. I assume BB's use of 'martial', was to evoke the warlike, intense atmosphere of the music, which seems fair-enough. If it is removed alla Nikkimaria, I'd suggest another synonym in its place, since the word "dance" alone may not properly convey the rather startling intensity it includes. Although I am a bit embarrassed to write this much about a single word!  Aza24  (talk)   17:30, 17 March 2024 (UTC)


 * ”Martial” or just “dance” would be my thoughts, but how do the sources describe it? That’s normally the best place to get a proper steer. - SchroCat (talk) 22:29, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, all. I've listened to the composer's recording and to Boulez's and have replaced the adjective with "forceful". No WP:RS for this, but I think my tinkering will pass muster.  Tim riley  talk   20:37, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Score changes
Can somebody please check if the two edits to scores (violin to cello and tuba to trombone) made on 11 March are correct? JennyOz (talk) 05:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC)