Talk:The Rolling Stones discography/Archive 1

Terrible
This is surely a rather terrible discography, isn't it? Given the confusingness of the Stones' early catalogue, it'd be nice to try to lay it all out, including all singles in the US and UK, the UK EPs, and so forth...release dates (as opposed to just years) would be nice as well. I'll try to get on it. john k 20:04, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks in advance for your contribution, that would be great &mdash;you should have seen what a mess it was when it was on the main RS article, with the singles listed separately. As I stated on the main RS article's talk page, although I'm a fan, I've been mainly trying Wikify. - redcountess 02:13, Jan 8, 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm wondering if you made a typo in the intro and meant U.S instead of U.K for the London Records releases? Will change it, but feel free to rv if wrong. - redcountess 02:18, Jan 8, 2005 (UTC)


 * I added the box set to the compilation list. I think the section needs an update, would be nice if someone created a page for the box set too! I'm not a Rolling Stones guru so I leave it to someone else. Klinthar (talk) 22:18, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Sympathy for the Devil remix
Should the recent Sympathy for the Devil Remix EP be listed on this page? PlasticBeat 02:54, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure about stuff like that. My inclination is to only include the major English & American singles, EPs, and albums, and not include things like remixes and so forth. john k 07:45, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, plus it's likely this would fall under a reissue category, and not under an original release. I think this was released by ABKCO in fall 2003 anyway, so it might not have been something the group officially had anything to do with, as ABKCO owns the rights to their early releases. PlasticBeat 16:17, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The first US release is NOT titled "England's Newest Hit Makers" but "The Rolling Stones" (like the UK release). On the US release that title is prefixed with the marketing slogan "England's Newest Hit Makers" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.129.193.222 (talk) 19:31, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Album discography/chronological format
I have reverted this article to return the studio section to the chronological format that been used and regularly improved since the article's creation. I find, in particular, the association of "companion" US/UK releases to be important. Since several users had been developing the listing, and no users objected to the format, I presume it enjoyed consensus; therefore the recent format change, without notice or explanation in edit summaries and without talk page activity, was inappropriate. Monicasdude 06:46, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

---Unofficial Albums?"---
Why include unauthorized albums on this page? I see no reason for it. At least make a seperate section for albums not officially endorsed by the stones instead of including them in with the other albums.

UK vs. US
I seperated the early releases between UK and US. Big Hits (High Tides and Green Grass) somehow got lost. I tried to change the Out of Our Heads picture to the UK version but I couldn't figure out how. Other than those two problems that I have no idea how to fix, I think the page is much easier to understand now.

Record companies
Neither this article nor the main RS one mention ABKCO. I understand all the Decca albums are said to have been published by American Decca under the London imprint. So where and when does ABKCO enter the picture? Did they only get a reissue deal sometime after 1969... or what?--S.Camus 12:10, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

After leaving Decca the Stones and former manager Allen Klein signed some contract, giving him all the rights on their (up-to-then) recorded material. (They probably didn't know exactly what they signed.) So from there on rereleases of the pre-"Sticky Fingers" material (Decca stuff) have been published on this label. Icyy2001 15:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

What happened to Aftermath?
Where's the link to "Aftermath"? It's their sixth U.S. album, but it's not on any of the lists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.179.137 (talk • contribs) 01:11, 18 May 2007

Fair-use on discographies test case
Please see Talk:The_Beatles_discography which is acting as a test case in this matter. Jooler 09:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Get Stoned
I'm not a Stones discography expert, so I'll refrain from adding this in case I've missed it in the article, but it appears that Get Stoned is missing from the list. Mike Christie (talk) 10:00, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * And for good reason. Get Stoned, on the budget label Arcade Records, is not an official release. Listing every Stones budget, pirate, or bootleg record is beyond the scope of this discography, which limits itself to officially sanctioned releases by the Stones or their actual record company.PJtP (talk) 16:11, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Milestones release year
I got a copy of the Milestones LP (Decca SKL 5098) and both the record sleeve and center label says 1971. So does Discogs. The article and this discography says it was released on 18 February 1972. Who's right? – IbLeo (talk) 19:56, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I moved this discussion to the album's talk page where it rightly belongs. Please comment over there. – IbLeo (talk) 18:26, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Walking the Dog
I collect sheet music, and I have a UK printing of a song called Walking the Dog, with a photo of the Stones on the cover, "Recorded on Decca by THE ROLLING STONES," copyright 1963, words and music by Rufus Thomas. For those who may be unaware, both the Stones and the Beatles recorded material by other composers for more than the first few years of their careers. From the photo on the cover, it seems that Mick was in the process of consolidating his position as Frontman of the group, since he is pictured in the foreground, not on the sides as in earlier pieces of sheet music. Was this song ever released? It should have been released at least in the UK, from this piece of music. Could anyone help on this research? 207.38.235.182 (talk) 04:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC) Allen Roth
 * It's on their first album, The Rolling Stones (album), as well as the corresponding US release England's Newest Hit Makers. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:33, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Surpise, Surprise - 1971 or 1989??
Based on information from the 1970's singles page, it looks like "Surprise, Surprise" was released in 1971 as the B-side to the "Street Fighting Man" single.

However, on the Rolling Stones, Now! page, the author mentions that "Surprise, Surprise" was never released until 1989.

Can someone clarify? —Preceding unsigned comment added by AarCanada (talk • contribs) 14:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Should american releases been shown on the same list?
I'm saying this because The Beatles discography doesn't show any american releases on par with the british ones. And if you're just skimming, it makes the stones look more prolific then they actually were. Zazaban (talk) 06:51, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

The American release Rolling Stones, Now! seems to have disappeared entirely. Spark240 (talk) 23:56, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I see now that the unsigned revision of November 14 removed several of the American releases, leaving this discography with no mention at all of CDs that are currently on store shelves. Spark240 (talk) 23:52, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I have undone the deletions of November 14, restoring those albums to the list. If somebody wants to break it into separate UK/US lists or whatever, go ahead, but obviously the US-only releases belong somewhere in the discography. Spark240 (talk) 00:00, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

inconsistency
There are inconsistency in the article: 1th is not the truth. “^ Hallberg, Eric (1993). Kvällstoppen i P3 (1th ed.). Sweden: Drift Musik. ISBN 91-630-2140-4. Weldt, Wille (1993). Topplistan (1th ed.). Sweden: Premium Publishing. ” It may be 1st or it may be 4th, 5th ... It is possible that the number is wrong, or the “th” is wrong. I do not know what of that is wrong or true. Please check it. --Diwas (talk) 13:37, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Typo - fixed; changed 1th to 1st (oneth, not being a proper word, to first, a proper word). Best, --Discographer (talk) 02:39, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Boxsets
The following Rolling Stones' releases: Singles 1963–1965, Singles 1965–1967, and Singles 1968–1971 are boxsets; maybe it would be better to move them into Boxsets group. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.11.83.216 (talk) 16:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

What does the hyphen denote?
The hyphen in the singles chart certainly does not always mean a release that did not chart. In many cases, it means that the song was not released as a single in that country. For instance, "Mother's Little Helper" was not a release that did not chart in the UK; it was never released as a single there. This ought to be clarified. john k (talk) 21:29, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Doom and Gloom
You have not included their newest single

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_and_Gloom — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.203.147.78 (talk) 23:28, 12 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Waiting for it to chart, as it may be redirected to GRRR! if it doesn't. User talk:Soldatti usually adds in all the new (charted) music. Best, --Discographer (talk) 00:16, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Misleading headings on ranking columns & conflicting numbers on the Singles charts
For example. In the 1984-2013 singles charts multiple columns (US & US Sales) claim to be the Billboard Hot 100 listings. However the numbers given don't match. Also, the "US Heritage" column has no valid link and is meaningless.68.99.30.107 (talk) 21:42, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Bo & Peep
Does anybody have any information about the single "Young Love" by Bo & Peep (Decca UK F11968), from 1964? It is supposedly the Rolling Stones - according to liner notes from English Freakbeat Volume 6. It is plausible listening to the track, except that Mick Jagger isn't the lead singer (he sounds like he could be in the chorus). If it is the Stones, who is the singer? Here's a link to it if needed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cDn8Z0JIbQ. Joinery1 (talk) 22:24, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Singles Subsectioning
The singles section is divided into three. Why? This seems pretty arbitrary and meaningless. It seems as if the table were split in three just for the sake of it. Jimp 02:43, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) 1963–1979
 * 2) 1980–1993
 * 3) 1994–2013

In Another Land
Could someone please point me to source stating that this charted in the US, on either Billboard or Cashbox? The books say that it did not. - Bossanoven (talk) 01:07, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

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 * Polls are evil. Consensus is achieved by discussion; not by polling.  I suggest that you each explain the benefits of the layout that you favour and then invite comments at Peer Review, Requests for Comment or Third opinion. &mdash;Theo  (Talk) 00:52, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Can I butt in here? I'm a consumer rather than editor here because I'm not a big Stones fan/authority and I came here to check out some information.  What we've done in the Rush discography is colour-code the cells of the albums so you can tell at a glance compilations/live/studio albums using the wikipedi rock colour standard.  It would be even more useful here because the (many) compilations are included in the main chronology & are confusing to me (the consumer). Megamanic 07:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Link to Still Life
The node "Still Life (album)" is about an Opeth album, not a Rolling Stones album. --Blenda Lovelace
 * Thank you, I have fixed that with new disambiguation.&mdash;Theo (Talk) 01:09, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Studio albums?
Why are there Live albums under the "Studio Albums" title?

Ruby Tuesday
In the 1967 single "Let's spend the night together/Ruby Tuesday" it says "Both Jagger/Richards",but in the 1991 single says "Jones/Richards (Credited to Jagger/Richards)". The truth is that the song is Jones/Richards.

Incorrect links
Most of the song title links in this topic are either redlinks, or lead to incorrect topics (that is, a topic not about the song.) What's the best way to fix this? Move the bad links to some uncreated new redlink? Or just un-link everything (except the few that are correct and working)?-- Mikeblas 18:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)