Talk:The Sign of the Beaver

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hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.250.39.231 (talk) 21:01, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

"Offensive" opinion removed.
I removed the sentence, "despite the author's offensive portrayal of Native Americans." This is clearly subjective and not the least bit factual. What the writer finds offensive, another does not and so it should be removed. On the other hand, the section "Criticisms" discusses views of Native Americans and lists their belief that the book is offensive. That is precisely where it belongs and exactly how the subject should be presented. Opinion does not belong in any article (except for instances such as "Criticisms") and never should have been written in there to begin with. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 05:50, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

"Criticisms" updated
After thoroughly reading through the original source material for the "criticims" I concluded that the word "offensive" once again was not uttered once. Instead, I rewrote the sentence with facts so that the readers may decide for themselves what they think and not to be preached to. I also added some information on the organization of Oyate and pointed out that one writer for Oyate made this conclusion. It's all factual and I think it best represents their opinion. I improved the citation as well. Now that I consider it, "Cricisms" should actually be singular since only one opinion is discussed, until other opinions are added. I think I'll go back and change that too. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 17:20, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately the Oyate website is undergoing changes and all of its reviews are missing. The current criticism section needs better writing and less of the obvious snarky attitude.  Consider also that the Oyate website was intended to seek out and identify racism and unfair portrayals of Native Americans in books, and "The Sign of the Beaver" possessed much of both.75.41.70.118 (talk) 07:42, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

AWESOME
Wikipedia is awesome! Pie is awesome! Cake is awesome! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.211.117.3 (talk) 19:37, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

the baby's sex
"In the winter, Matt's family finally returned, though Matt's little sister (who he hadn't met) died."

Nowhere in the book did I see it say that the baby was a girl. On page 132, Matt asks, "The baby---did you leave it behind?" And the father responds, "The little one only lived five days." I'm wondering where it says it was a girl.98.116.33.120 (talk) 01:15, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

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