Talk:The Slits

Picture of The Shaggs
Why is this article illustrated with a picture of The Shaggs? Why was my revert to a picture of The Slits reverted? Why are these revisions anonymous? Speagles (talk) 00:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't know !? However, now resolved (for the time being, at least).


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Dog Faced Hermans
I can find no record of The Slits having any connection with The Dog Faced Hermans, AKAIK they were 2 completely separate bands, the only common demoninator being that both bands had female members.


 * I'm sure there is no direct connection between Dog face Hermans & The Slits. I'd be happy to stand corrected, but until such time I'm placing the text here;


 * "The Slits were later to get involved in other projects like "The Dog Faced Hermans" (are you sure? What is the link?)."

Was Neneh Cherry a member?
The Wikipedia article on Neneh Cherry states she was once a member of the Slits, and was even Ari Up's roommate. I have read this before in other places. Why no mention of it here?

DavidRavenMoon (talk) 00:49, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

"Heard it Through the Grapevine"
Wasn't "Heard it Through the Grapevine" actually a B-side to "Typical Girls"? I'm not certain, so I'll leave the discog as it is for now. --Camembert


 * Ya, "Head it through the Grapvine" was the b-side. They were asked by Island Records to release it as the single but the band didn't want to because they wanted to release their own material. Underneath-it-All 15:17, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Mostly all-women?
How can a band be "mostly" all-women? &mdash;Chowbok 05:19, 5 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The Slits started out as all female, and tend to be thought of as an 'all women' band. However they had at least 2 male drummers during their career, Budgie (Pete Clarke) and Bruce Smith of The Pop Group, but I think these tended to be on a 'guest musician' basis rather than permanent members. Not sure how to edit the text to reflect this, but I agree that 'mostly all female' is bad grammar to say the least.... quercus robur 21:36, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


 * We are now back to an 'all female band' description (18 April 2006). But, whilst largely true, this does not accurately reflect the input of the two male drummers (see quercus robur comments above). Yes, this article still needs further work, and better wording, to give a more rounded and accurate overview of the situation. Over to you, someone....
 * Derek R Bullamore 21:58, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I changed it to "all female". Whilst the role of any guest musician (or producer; Dennis Bovell) should be recorded, the musical direction of the band and its lyrics were always the role of the long lasting trio - and Palmolive when she was in the band. Whilst Budgie may have been considered a member he was quickly persuaded to become a Banshee. Bruce Smith, as noted, was already a member of another band and continued to be so. On that basis the creative core of The Slits is, I suggest, exclusively female.LessHeard vanU 12:55, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Um, Palmolive was gone before they even recorded Cut. Budgie was responsible for most (if not all) if their drumming while recording. Smith was a guest drummer, never a part of the band. It's all in the book "Rip it up and start again".--151.188.0.235 14:07, 19 October 2006 (UTC)not logged in User:DogNewTricks
 * Although the group had a male drummer, virtually all publicity photos and interviews involved the three female members, and therefore they were presented and regarded as a female group. Currently the article doesn't say they are a female group, but perhaps this could be re-introduced with this explanation.
 * The article says (re. their break-up), "The remaining members, except for Pollitt went on to be part of the New Age Steppers", but the article for NAS only lists Ari Up as an involved member. Perhaps the others were briefly involved, but too brief to mention, in which case the Slits article should be changed to say only Ari joined the NAS.
 * The article currently has a "needs additional citations" tag at the top, but there are 9 cite sources, which seems enough for an article of this size. The tag should be removed, and if there are still problems, the localized "citations needed" tag and/or talk page discussion should be used. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 00:24, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I think, this page of them should be updated because their doing some tours now. So, can someone just updated.

You Tube
This could be: 1) independent live footage of the Slits live at the Vortex Club 2) a four minute clip from Punk! The Early Years.

If it is #1, it could have been uploaded by the author. If it is #2, it is arguably fair use, under substantiality, and there is no way to determine that the uploader is not a rep for MVD. The copyright on the underlying music is owned by CBS, which has a deal with You Tube. In the absence of any complaints, the weight of the evidence indicates that there is insufficent suspicion that this is a "knowing" infringement.-Cindery 22:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

POV?
However, by the time of their second 'official' LP release Return Of The Giant Slits'' (a 'semi-official' bootleg of poorly recorded early material having been released in the interim by Rough Trade), many felt that their initial energy, exuberance and innovativeness had deserted them. '' I'm not sure I'd agree with this, and isn't it just an opinion anyway?Wwwhatsup 16:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

''At their outset, the Slits played a brand of brash, fun, snotty, catchy punk rock naturally suited to supporting The Clash on their 1977 White Riot tour... ''
 * The POV continues unabated over a year on. Can someone add some decent, genuine sources to the current, sadly fancruft punctuated, shambles of an article ?


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, me - that's who. Hope the article is more encyclopedic and wiki-ish now. Although, it could still do with more references and less POV. Thanks,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

In Popular Culture
Perhaps there should be a section on references or related things that occur within popular culture pertaining to the slits, as I have seen on other Wiki pages, I'm not sure how serious people deem "trivia" type of information, but people may be interested in such things. Two examples I can think of are 1) in the song "Hot Topic" by the feminist band Le Tigre (who also have a wikipedia page) The Slits are called out (the song's lyrics are comprised almost entirely of the proper names of important musical/cultural entities that Le Tigre are citing as influences, and 2) in the cult-classic and award-winning Lizzie Borden independent film "Born In Flames", in a scene the Slit's song "Newtown" is heard in the background while a radio speaker actually says "new town" in reference to potential political changes taking place in the fictional political climate of New York City seen in the film. These seem like pretty significant cultural references to The Slits within culturally important contexts, i.e. film and music.

Closetotheknives (talk) 01:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I went ahead and added the section in. If anyone knows of any other significant references to the Slits, please add them.

Closetotheknives (talk) 07:36, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've removed this, trivia sections are generally discouraged. A Legacy section might be appropriate if you can pull together some references that explain the Slits' infuence on later bands. Flowerparty ☀ 12:55, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I guess I have to agree with Flowerparty. These mentions are a little too trivial. Perhaps try Google books for some good references. Wwwhatsup (talk) 03:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Discography
A few problems with the discography...

The so-called Bootleg Retrospective is an untitled album; this and other titles assigned to it are not official, and besides, it is neither a bootleg nor a retrospective. Nor is it a live album, so it belongs in their regular list of albums. Looking at a quote from the article (as it used to be) under the "POV" heading further up this page, it is clear someone has confused this album with Return of the Giant Slits. Currently the article calls Return... "a second, confused and disappointing LP", which I think is still referring to the untitled album in error, and besides, this is just POV; it could just as easily be called a fun, spirited album that wasn't meant to be in the same class as a normal album (not that I'm proposing this opinion be inserted in the article).

Another point, this album was was on the Y Records label, not Rough Trade. Most of the early Y records were distributed by RT, and had both Y and RT catalogue numbers, but this album is an exception, and only has a Y number. Actually, an RT catalogue number is inscribed in the matrix area and scratched out, which suggests RT declined to distribute it. I would also suggest the Y singles should be listed as just Y instead of "Y / Rough Trade" as no RT name or logo appears on the label.

We should also list the Island releases as "Island (UK) / Antilles (USA)".

Speaking of bootlegs, Typical Girls (live album) is a bootleg, and should be removed. Any objections?

Revenge of the Killer Slits EP should be moved to the singles section, as 3 out of 5 entries currently in that section were released in 7-inch and 12-inch versions, the latter format having more than 2 tracks, and generally classified as an EP. The first Peel Sessions record should be there as well, instead of appearing under Compilations.

Re. Trapped Animal, the forthcoming album, should this not be removed from the discography until it is actually released? It is also mentioned in the article, which should be sufficient. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 00:24, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Possible copyright problem
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steve beresford &c
his name appears on the sleeve of "return.." in the context of 'plays a lot on this record'.

he deserves a mention in the article, then, no? but not sure where to put him. in the light of zoe howe's biog & viv's own account of the time, perhaps the whole thing's due a re-work to flesh it out a bit more, especially in terms of the ladies' musicianship & the mechanics of their recordings & performances.

duncanrmi (talk) 11:12, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

What on earth does this sentence mean?
Captured on a Peel Session, the Slits' originally raw and raucous live sound was cleaned up and polished by the time of their debut album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.77.13.152 (talk) 14:34, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It's a bad attempt at describing the difference between the sound of the Palmolive lineup (captured on TWO Peel sessions) and the sound on the Cut album. Probably by someone who has swallowed whole the myth of Palmolive walking out of the band over the mud photos and thinks it's actually her on the album and that the band simply evolved from one sound to the other.  I've sorted it out now.Romomusicfan (talk) 14:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)