Talk:The State (Larry Niven)

Name/Story universe

 * Wasn't this referred to as the World State in one of the books? Kuralyov 06:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The absence of Christmas Wreaths is certainly not a full-proof indication of the end of Christianity. It's just a cultural trimming. The State does seem like the kind of draconian government that might outlaw religion(s), but you need better proof. JW Bjerk (talk) 17:01, 16 October 2009 (UTC)


 * For some reason, the "grendel" universe (Legacy of Heorot, Destiny's Road, and whatever the Heorot sequel was called) always struck me as being set in the State universe as well. They never refer to it explicitly, but the comments which colonists make at various times all seem to point to an overcrowded planet with a tightly-controlling government. 107.9.45.143 (talk) 00:01, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Beowulf's Children and yes, I strongly received the same impression. Mentally I assigned all three stories to the State.  184.57.164.183 (talk) 00:37, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You've spotted similarities between fictional works, but I've spotted similarities in the threads instead. Therefore, I've taken the liberty of merging them. In fiction and as in real life, each hell is different, so while hell often has the same characteristics in each instance, please don't confuse them. To understand a hell, it's important to see both similarities and differences. The World State is a dystopia, but not very much of one. If they simply treated children and their elders better, a lot of people would be quick to see the World State as a utopia to die for if necessary. Enough said. 203.215.118.172 (talk) 08:36, 6 June 2016 (UTC)