Talk:The Tale of Mrs. Tiggy-Winkle/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Malleus Fatuorum 15:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Although the book title is The Tale of Mrs. Tiggy-Winkle, the character is called Mrs. Tiggy-winkle.
 * Have adjusted this across the article. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 01:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Lead
 * Mrs. Tiggy-Winkle is a hedgehog and a washerwoman who entertains a human child named Lucie in her tiny cottage high in the hills above Little-Town." Which "Little-Town" is this? Lucie lives at Little-town farm.
 * Altered. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 01:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * "Though set in real world Little-Town and nearby areas ...". It's not set in real world Little-Town at all, which is in any event called Little Town, without the hyphen.
 * Altered. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 01:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Character
 * "She lives high in the hills near Little Town." She lives high in the hills near Little-town farm, not the town of Little Town.
 * Altered. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 01:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * "She is 'an excellent clear-startcher ... "Starcher"?
 * Corrected. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 01:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * "With a breaking heart, Potter chloroformed her beloved hedgehog." I feel that's just a little too emotional for an encyclopedia article. Can we drop the "with a breaking heart"?
 * Dropped. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 01:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Critical commentaries
 * "Cats, dogs, rabbits, and more familiar animals had a long tradition in children's literature when Potter began her career as an author-illustrator ...". Which animals would have been more familiar than a cat or a dog?
 * Horses, rats, mice, and birds? Changed to "other". Susanne2009NYC (talk) 01:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * "She notes that 'Mrs. Tiggy-Winkle' has become a synonym for female hedgehogs and for meticulous housekeepers." What's the purpose of the scare quotes around Mrs. Tiggy-Winkle?
 * Removed. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 01:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Adaptations
 * In the image caption, the character is called Mrs. Tiggy Winkle.
 * Altered. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 01:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm putting this review on hold for up to seven days so that these issues can be addressed. Malleus Fatuorum 15:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Additional comment. Despite a reference to "acid", the printing technique for the illustrations is not given. There were several techniques in use at this period & the article should explain which was used. Johnbod (talk) 16:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * My sources don't indicate which process. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 01:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I would suggest more research. It seems to me one of the "main aspects of the topic" for a period illustrated book. Johnbod (talk) 02:30, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I have a dozen books about Potter and none of them mention specifically the process used in the publication of Mrs. Tiggy-Winkle. I will continue to look, but I'm not optimistic. I'm not sure it's a necessary point to cover in an article at the GAN level anyway, maybe FAC, but I won't submit the article to FAC. I'm considering the deletion of the 'acid' passage. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 03:39, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You might start here. I would be frankly very surprised if your books did not contain the answer somewhere. Johnbod (talk) 03:50, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll check, but as I indicated I don't think it's a necessary point for GA (which is broad rather than comprehensive). Thanks for the tip. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 04:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I checked your source and found nothing sepcific about Mrs. Tiggy-winkle. If you find something, please bring it to the article. I don't have an ownership issue with the article and I'm thrilled when others contribute! Susanne2009NYC (talk) 04:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * While the technique used to print the illustrations in the early versions of the book may be necessary to meet FA's "comprehensive" criteria, that information is clearly not readily available, and in my judgement its omission does not disqualify this article from meeting GA's rather weaker "broad in its coverage" criterion. After all, we might equally well ask what technique was used to print the text, what weight of paper was used ... It appears to me that the illustrations in the first published edition were not in fact in colour anyway, consistent with their description here as photogravures. Malleus Fatuorum 14:49, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think that is talking about Mrs TW, which surely had neither an "Introduction by Sir Walter Armstrong, the former curator", nor over 200 illustrations! The other questions are clearly not as relevant, but I won't labour the point. It's your review. Johnbod (talk) 15:27, 14 July 2010 (UTC)