Talk:The Tatler (1709 journal)

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someone please tell me how to pronounce the name of this magazine - is it taytler of tattler???

can someone put a picture of the front page up? I can't work out how to do it ...


 * The connection with Sir Richard Steele's Tatler papers made here is preposterous: the magazine itself makes no such claim, though I haven't thumbed it in decades. As far as being aristocratic now, it's simply Celebrity Lifestyles presented in a Harper's Bazaar format. --Wetman 08:32, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

This is ridiculous -- there is no connection to Addison & Steele's publication, which closed down in the 18th century -- this is not the "oldest English language publication still in print." Also, what's more alarming is that a search for "Tatler" produces this page and not the original Tatler.


 * Agreed, there really ought to be two articles. Richard Pinch 21:02, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Split. The two magazines have nothing in common whatsoever. Mahlum (talk) 20:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Asian Tatlers?
Do the Asian Tatler editions have anything to do with the London-based Condé Nast title? If so, this should be made clear; if not, they should be placed under the heading of "Unrelated Tatlers".Matthau (talk) 05:03, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Tattler
Is it known why it has always been Tatler rather than the more obvious "Tattler"? Varlaam (talk) 15:19, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Can we rename this page?
This Tatler has no connection to the original Tatler, so perhaps this should be "Tatler (1901)" or something similar? Heywoodg  talk  07:14, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Move?

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: '''Defective multi-page move. Please discuss which page should be at Tatler in one location at Talk:Tatler (1901)''' older ≠ wiser 22:03, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

RE: previous Tatler move. This article was split (not by me) a couple of weeks ago into Tatler (about the 1709 version) and Tatler (1901) (about the current version). When I discovered this split, I pointed out to the mover that this had damaged a lot of links, and we agreed that Tatler would be renamed Tatler (1709) (which I did yesterday, and set about fixing the small number of links to the historical Tatler to point to the 1709 article), and that Tatler (1901) would reclaim the name Tatler, thus restoring most of the damaged links to their rightful target. However, the articles seem to have been messed around by the last set of admin moves, so that Tatler is now a disambig page, which is a much worse state of affairs than the one I was trying to fix. Now all links to Tatler are wrong. Can someone please put things back the way I requested them? Colonies Chris (talk) 19:08, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * And the current page Tatler to Tatler (disambiguation).
 * See :: Page Tatler has between 50 and 100 incoming links, but most of them are from talk pages and user pages. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:46, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Rather than having separate discussions, please participate at Talk:Tatler (1901). I realize the outcome of this proposal is different, but it seems quite pointless to have two separate discussions at the same time regarding what should be at Tatler. older ≠ wiser 21:58, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Move discussion in progress
A requested move affecting this page is being discussed at Talk:Tatler (1901). older ≠ wiser 21:55, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

(1709)
I won't wade in with another page move while everything is still up in the air, but this article title should be Tatler (1709 journal) rather than Tatler (1709) - the disambiguation should tell the reader what they'll be getting if they click on the title. Wikipedia doesn't even use the year-only disambiguation for films; it's always "Title (19xx film)". --McGeddon (talk) 12:10, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Renamed to "The Tatler" because that is what it was called. filceolaire (talk) 18:32, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Well that failed. :( Anyone else want to try? filceolaire (talk) 18:39, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It's because The Tatler already exists as an article. You can leave a note at WP:RM/TR and ask an admin to clear the way and make the move; it seems uncontroversial (the sources all seem to refer to the journal as "The Tatler"). --McGeddon (talk) 18:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)