Talk:The Temple of Elemental Evil

Notability Tags
I suggest that the notability, plot and references tags are speedily removed. The plot tag is simply wrong -- hardly any of the article deals with the plot, and the notability tag is mistaken. This is one of the most famous, and earliest published role playing adventures. I am not sure how it could be more notable really. Certainly it is more notable than many other D&D related pages. As for references, I think that is a mistake. There's plenty of referenced material, I am not sure what otherwise would be wanted. Francis Davey 14:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I removed the notability tag, for obvious reasons. The problem with the "references" is that they are not proper inline references. A bibliography at the end of the article is no substitute for properly citing the individual items, such as the ranking in Dragon. -- Orange Mike 15:19, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * That's fair enough, but it doesn't make the article non-notable. The notability is referred to in the lead. Inline references are obviously to be preferred. Francis Davey 19:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Huh? What part of I removed the notability tag, for obvious reasons did you not understand? I agreed with you, and removed it! -- Orange Mike 23:03, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I did understand what you said. Do you disagree with anything I said? It doesn't seem so. It maybe you are reading in to what I am saying something that is not there. Francis Davey 08:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I was just confused when you wrote, it doesn't make the article non-notable as if I had said otherwise, since I had agreed with you and had deleted the tag already. We're in agreement on that all around. -- Orange Mike 20:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Burzum
There seems to be disagreement about an unregistered user observing that the artwork for one of Burzum's albums was "inspired" (more like plagiarized, really) by the original ToEE artwork. My opinion on this is that it seems perfectly okay to have it in a "Trivia" section. There've been a number of attempts to pare down or eliminate D&D content on Wikipedia, so I think including every relevant real-world influence is to our benefit (and yes, for good or ill, Burzum's influence on the black metal genera should not be disregarded).--Robbstrd 19:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I'd second including this bit - Varg has outright stated that the module art was the basis for the art on the self-titled debut and the Det Som Engang Var record (which can be viewed here http://www.burzum.org/eng/discography/official/1992_burzum.shtml and here http://www.burzum.org/eng/discography/official/1993_det_som_engang_var.shtml), and has posted a bio section (here http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/a_burzum_story01.shtml) in which he talks about being inspired by AD&D in general. As noted above, whether you're a fan or not, Burzum is certainly notable in the music world. And it's certainly notable for an adventure module to have this much influence on something outside roleplaying itself. (He even makes a point to clarify that it was "AD&D (First edition)"! Somehow not surprising that Varg'd be an edition elitist.)  --DestroyYouAlot (talk) 19:14, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

The Village of Hommlet
T1 The Village of Hommlet is mentioned, but shouldn't it be a Reference link, and also a 'Linked Module'? http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/modpages/t.html This also has bearing on the Lolth page, as I was trying to see what the first reference to Lolth was. It could be T1. The T1 portion of the combined T1-4 clearly involves Lolth. But then it isn't clear if that was part of the "slight updating" between T1 and T1-4. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.236.94 (talk) 18:55, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:The Temple of Elememtal Evil (CRPG).jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)