Talk:The Turbulent Term of Tyke Tiler

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i think wikipedia needs to have more information about this novel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.206.242.244 (talk) 16:32, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

The Twist
I am removing the sentence that reveals the twist ending. That would completely ruin the book for all the zillions of people likely to read this page!--Pooneil (talk) 22:13, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * As an encyclopaedia, we are not aiming to shelter people from finding out plot twists. I suggest putting this back. --86.11.4.28 (talk) 21:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Title
I have returned this page to the original title - there seems no evidence for the claim that The Turbulent Term of Tyke Tyler was the title it was first published under in the UK. The Carnegie Medal Living Archive] gives "Tiler", for example. Robina Fox (talk) 19:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

School
I don't know enough about headmasters, combined schools, and so on to do more than wikify the former, "See also" the latter. --and leave "primary school for ages 4 to 12" by a previous editor in the lead, altho I wonder whether primary is redundant where day school would be informative.

At first (but without saving) I added genre=school story but changed my mind before saving because that means boarding school almost exclusively. • The " embedded list" Boarding school does include these two listings that show flexibility: Bottom line: I retained simply genre=Children's novel, which I never retain if I can do better, and wrote "children's school adventure novel" in the lead. Someone who knows the book may be able to correct or confirm, by using links given here if not off the top of her head.
 * Jean Webster's Daddy Long Legs (1912) is set in a women's residential college with dormitory life, but the chaperonage standards of that era do give the school something of a pre-college feeling.
 * Muriel Spark's novel The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie (1961) has much of a "feel" of a boarding-school novel, although Marcia Blaine School for Girls is actually a day school.

I also wonder whether Cricklepit is a --an oddball category-only, no main article. --P64 (talk) 21:34, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Source

 * second of two new sections

Our biography Gene Kemp provides a bare URL for an article that is likely to be useful here and there.
 * Children's Literature in Education
 * Volume 10, Number 3 (1979), 131-140, DOI: 10.1007/BF01146903
 * Children are real people: the stories of Gene Kemp
 * Gillian Cross

--P64 (talk) 21:38, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Gender section disproportionately long
The section on Gender is longer than any of the other sections. This strikes me as disproportionate, warping the focus of the article. Pete unseth (talk) 15:59, 6 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Pete unseth, thank you for taking interest in this article. As per the manual of style for novels, the "Major themes" section of an article is in many ways the most important section and should present a consensus of literary scholars on those themes. The Turbulent Term of Tyke Tiler is most notable for its ending, where the main character is revealed to be a girl, and thus much of the critique of the novel is about how gender is handled in the book. Given this is where the focus often lies when people analyse the book, it seems natural that "Gender" would be the longest section of the article. Do let me know if you disagree or have any suggestions. Unexpectedlydian (talk) 19:40, 6 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Unexpectedlydian, I defer to your greater knowledge of the book itself. Pete unseth (talk) 20:10, 6 June 2022 (UTC)