Talk:The Twelfth Man

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Maybe the 12th Man page should be made disamb giving pointers to both the school or this series? --Vikingstad 23:38, May 19, 2004 (UTC) "Benaud himself is known to have a very low opinion of the recordings, due predominantly to Birmingham's use of profanity." - does anyone have a source on this? I never got the impression that his opinion of it was "very low", rather that he took it with good humour with the caveat that he didn't approve of the language. Ramanpotential 21:24, 17 October 2005 (UTC) Ihave the cover for Wierd World of Sports, biut it's much too large to scan. For a long long time I've thought/known Benaud doesn't think much of Billy Birmingham's efforts, but whether this is fact or whether I'm just subscribing to an urban myth is next to impossible to tell. I have a very vague memory of him making a throwaway comment about it on TV but I'm guessing this will be impossible to source. Travisbasevi 03:21, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * In an interview from around the time of the Final Dig, Billy said that Richie sends him a handwritten critique of each record following its release, with one of Richie's main complaints being the profanity used. I don't remember anything in that interview of Richie not enjoying the record (or on the contrary either).  R o  gerthat  Talk  13:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Look at this interview here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2001/aug/06/cricket.comment2 : "I have various problems with what Billy does; to do with sniggering at Asian names, we could do without that. And we could do without the swearing. Rory Bremner I have no problem with, he is a satirist and a very funny one too." 130.225.26.33 (talk) 08:12, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Sales
I've heard the the original "Wired World of Sports" held/holds the record for the largest sales in Australia by and Australian artist. Any record of this? - SimonLyall 03:46, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Likewise the very first release "It's Just Not Cricket" in 1984 achieved some remarkable sales but doesn't rate a mention here.

Marvellous
Why is there no mention of the song "Marvellous"? I might add this later... maybed do a bit of research in to when it was released, highest chart position, etc. GK1 18:38, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It should be added MxAesir 01:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * On Boned! Birmingham mentions through Gudinksi that Marvellous went to number 1. There's the version from Still the 12th Man that was released in the 92/93 season but I have another single version of the song that mentions "season 91/92".  R o  gerthat  Talk  13:01, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 18:55, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Twelfth or 12th?
I have never heard it referred to as the "Twelfth Man" it's generally only the "12th Man."

My recommendation is to change the title unless someone can show me where it is actually called Twelfth man.--Deansherr (talk) 00:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

(chriswaltham) I agree, although I'm not going to be the one to change the name. I have the box set and it's written "The 12th Man" on the covers, inserts, credits etc., never as "The Twelfth Man" Chris (talk) 18:58, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

12th Man Scripts?
Does anyone know if there are any scripts available for the 12th Man series? I have the cd's for each release but was wondering if all of the words/scripts are available to download or copy from another website somewhere?

Hope somebody can help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by ComradeBT (talk • contribs) 18:31, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Racism
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned that Birmingham's jokes about teams from the sub continent are borderline racist. He regularly refers to members of the Pakistan team as p*k*s. I'm surprised that people have such a lax attitude to this casual racism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.35.174.3 (talk) 12:10, 1 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I know I'm replying to a post from six years ago, but I thought I'd shed some light in case anyone else considers this idea. The word "Paki" is not to my knowledge considered racist (casual or otherwise) in Australia - and it certainly wasn't in the 1980s when there was no World Wide Web for us to get an idea of what other cultures might view as offensive or otherwise. The word was used as the Pakistani version of "Aussie" for Australian or "Windies" for the West Indies. Australians attach the diminutive form to all sorts of things and it seemed only natural. Benson & Hedges World Series Cup ads regularly refered to the Pakis and the Poms or the Windies. If the use of the term has gone out of vogue today it's because people are now more informed about sensibilities in other countries


 * Here's an ad for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiihZCcYe5M


 * Mandurahmike (talk) 08:08, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Additions
I've added a bunch of stuff about the characters parodied, and why. Chris (talk) 14:28, 31 May 2015 (UTC)