Talk:The Undertaker/Archive 10

Death Valley Vice
So which is it? The Triangle Choke or the Gogoplata? If the Gogoplata, then why does it say the triangle choke has been used since 2003? --Oxico (talk) 21:35, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

In Jim Ross`s recent blog, he has said that it isow called "The Devil`s Triangle." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.8.117.10 (talk) 17:00, 6 November 2008 (UTC) Also, where should this go on his page(about his schedule): The Undertaker is not working a light schedule. He works weekly TVs, house shows, and pay-per-views. This week, The Undertaker worked a TV match on Raw (against JBL), a TV match on SmackDown (against Vladimir Kozlov), and a dark match at last night's tapings (against Big Show). Compared to most workers, Undertaker actually has one of the heavier schedules. Vince McMahon does not let workers dictate to him when they work and when they do not work and this is one of the biggest reasons why people like Sting and Goldberg are not with the company. It is also why people choose TNA over WWE so that they do not have to work the hectic schedule.

We don't post week by week events on the wrestling pages (except for pay-per-view event pages) about any wrestler on the WWE or TNA roster, plus what you just said has nothing to do with what the hold is called, can 92.8.117.10 please source that?  Hairy Perry  17:24, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Why?
Why is it that other wrestler articles on Wikipedia are current with events that have transpired, but this page is woefully lacking in updates? Why is it impossible to edit this page and not other pages? I don't care for the run of the mill answers "It's troll bait" "It's a target for week by weeks" etc. So what? Other wrestlers get their due. Give the Deadman his. -- One Pissed Bitch 10:25, 15 November 2008 (CST)

Too long. 65.31.103.28 (talk) 02:21, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Hell's Gate
JR once again announced a new name for Taker's "gogoplata". The Undertaker's submission hold is now being called officially, "Hell's Gate."

Here's the link. http://www.jrsbarbq.com/blog/jerry-ring-lawlerignorent-fan-feedbackknoxbrodyortonmale-fansswagger —Preceding unsigned comment added by Torteziken (talk • contribs) 12:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Should we still have the name Devil's Triangle beside it, like Hell's Gate / Devil's Triangle. Considering for a breif period that was the name of it?--DonJuan.EXE (talk) 04:03, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, he usedthe move at Armageddon 2007, when it wasn't called anything, so the date should be (2007-)?King garthur (talk) 12:35, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * That was a triangle choke, not the gogoplata.  Hell's   Guardian    17:17, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Its the "Bermuda Triangle" Kalajan (talk) 21:33, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No... The Devil's triangle is a name for the Bermuda Triangle, but the move was called The Devil's Triangle. Now it's Hell's Gate. It was never named the Bermuda Triangle--DonJuan.EXE (talk) 17:51, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for making me laugh! I have to remember that. All kidding aside, The official name is Hell's Gate, not the bermuda triangle.  Hell's   Guardian    21:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Specialty matches in the opening
I think the originator of special matches should promptly be removed from the intro. If we should point out matches in the intro, it should be Taker's specialty matches. The Boiler Room Brawl, Inferno, and Hell in a Cell are not his specialty matches. This page is about the Undertaker. Those matches are not tied with his gimmick like the Casket match and the Buried Alive match. The Inferno match is tied to Kane's gimmick and the boiler room brawl is tied to Mankind's gimmick. Hell in a cell is also more of Mankind's specialty because of his classic fall and the abuse he took in that match. A major reason I object to originator comments is because it's in the opening. If it has to be in the article (which I don't think it does), it should not be in the opening. Again, if any mention of Taker's matches are in the opening, I strongly feel it should just be his specialy matches. Any objections? 65.31.103.28 (talk) 07:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The Hell in the Cell is most definatley associated with the Undertakers gimmick. It's not associated with Mick Foley, Foley just happened to fall off and through it once. The WWE builds it up to be associated with The Undertaker gimmick; it's nick name is "The Devil Playground".--DonJuan.EXE (talk) 04:04, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

That may be true but Hell in a Cell hasn't been described as Taker's specialty as the buried alive match and particularly the casket match have. My main point was that I think the heading should discuss his specialty matches much sooner than it should discuss matches he just originated. Any objections? 65.31.103.28 (talk) 13:16, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes it has... they make a point to record his achievements and have included a section on his biography online..--DonJuan.EXE (talk) 00:44, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * It's not one of Undertaker's matches where he wins most of the time, but it is a specialty match. He has made history in that match. For example: Shawn Micheals' specialty match is the Ladder match, but he has lost a lot of them like the Razor Ramon match and the Jerhico match. S imon K  S   K    00:52, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry for double posting, but how does taking a beating, make that match a specialty of his? Altough most people are reminded of Foley when they think of the match, the hell in a cell is Undertaker's specialty.  S imon K  S   K    00:55, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

That link merely described HIC as a match Taker has been very successful in; not his specialty match. I do not believe WWE considers Hell in a Cell Taker's specialty match like buried alive and particularly the casket match so it's something that would require sourcing since there is a dispute. Simple as that! Again, let's try to stick to the point. It's a waste of time to debate whether or not Hell in a Cell is Taker's specialty if it's decided that his specialty matches shouldn't be in the opening as opposed to matches he was the first to compete in. What is and is not his specialty match doesn't become an issue until this has been resolved. Again, are there any objections to the intro containing Taker's specialty matches instead of all the matches he was the first to compete in? 65.31.103.28 (talk) 01:54, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Since there seems to be consensus (as it has been a week and no one has made any objections to this proposal) can someone who can edit the page please make the change? Just as a note so there's no confusion, I am user 65.31.103.28 using my new account. Thank you! Cheers dude (talk) 00:18, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Read hell I'm the cell it was created by shawn michaels and undertaker to end their feud and in many jr blogs HitC matches have been referred to as the devils playground due to being a taker speciality. @ the foley falling thru the cell he was actually put thru By taker and thrown on announce table by taker —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.32.250 (talk) 00:05, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. I will include Hell In A Cell with Buried Alive and the Casket match as the Undertaker's specialty per this discussion. Cheers! Cheers dude (talk) 09:16, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Taker- Batista feud
I was reading in Batista's autobiography that when Undertaker got injured and needed surgery they were going to have Kennedy cash in his money in the bank and defeat Taker for the title. However Kennedy tore his triceps so they had Edge take the MITB off him and defeat Taker. Was wondering if its in any way notable to any of the three articles Adster95 (talk) 16:17, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

There isn't an appropriate section for that kind of information on this page as it sounds like trivia info. Now, that's not to say I wouldn't want an interesting fact like that and other interesting facts about him and his career on this page; however, numerous editors like the idea of having absolutely every match in his career from beginning to now explained, so that it's exhaustively taking up the entire page and there's no room for anything else. I doubt things will change anytime soon and I don't intend to debate for eons for the change. Hope this helps!65.31.103.28 (talk) 04:02, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Kane
Later in life Glen Thomas Jacobs(Kane) was brought into Mark's Family.

uhhh...source? And sign your posts with 4 ~s. S imon K  S   <font color="ForestGreen">K    21:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Having a source is irrelevant. I'm guessing you've brought this to the attention here on the talk page so as to include it into the article. As I told the user above, there really is no trivia section on this article as it's exhaustively taken up a hefty amount of space with absolutely nothing but match outcomes in Taker's career. I wish wrestler's articles could include interesting facts or some other type of information about their careers, but apparently a lot of people think that articles should predominately contain every match the wrestler has been involved in, in their career so it has to be updated all the time. Because of the way the article is written, I simply do not see a proper section for information like that or much of anything else might I add. 65.31.103.28 (talk) 02:04, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but having a reliable source vertifies if something is true. If sources were "irrelevant", then each article would have nonsense. Second, we don't list week by week match outcomes. Third, we are a encylopedia, not a fun facts website. Last, I don't see how Jacobs in Taker's career is trivia, nor is it true. Until you give a source it's bullshit, if you can excuse my tongue. And, please don't edit your comments. I hate rewriting things because of an edit conflict. S imon <font color="OrangeRed">K  <font size="2.5"><font color="DarkCyan">S   <font color="ForestGreen">K    02:18, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

SimonKSK, I highly suggest you familiarize yourself with WP:Civil before continuing to comment on this talk page. Right now, you're pushing WP:Civil in a big way. Also, I advise you to read comments carefully before responding to them as you completely misunderstood what myself and whomever wrote that first comment said. Cheers! 65.31.103.28 (talk) 02:54, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

OOO don't get in the doghouse with the WikiPolice! They might -gasp- BAN you and force you to get a life! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.183.194.82 (talk) 11:17, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not censored.  S imon <font color="OrangeRed">K  <font size="2.5"><font color="DarkCyan">S   <font color="ForestGreen">K    18:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

How to do the last ride
This was just added into the article making known that a new article entitled How To doThe Last Ride be merged with this article. Erm... notwithstanding the grammatical area of 'doThe' in the article title, definitely doesn't sound like a proper title for an article on wikipedia as wikipedia is not a site for a lesson in how things are done. As for the article being titled Last Ride and having its own separate article, I don't think that would be appropriate either. I think the Last Ride move belongs on the Powerbomb article as a modified version of the Powerbomb. As one example of modified powerbombs on that page, there's even Diesel's Jacknife which is titled on that page as Jacknife powerbomb. I feel Last Ride could be titled The Last Ride powerbomb somewhere on that page and be explained there, but not on this article or on its own article. There of course could be a link to that article somewhere on this article but I don't feel this article should really focus on that anywhere. Just my own opinion. Hope this helps! Cheers! Cheers dude (talk) 02:25, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that page should just be deleted. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 02:51, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Sections
Can someone change the section of his return at WrestleMania XX? Just eliminate elements of American Bad Ass. It's stupid and dosent belong there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.13.33.164 (talk) 22:09, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

I didn't think it was "stupid"; merely descriptive. Oh well! I removed it as per your request since it is a bit long for a section title anyway and although he does still do a few things he did when he was The American Bad Ass, it's mainly just the Deadman. Removed! Please remember to sign your comments with ( ~ ~ ~ ~ ) without the parenthesis. Cheers! Cheers_Dude (talk) 05:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, and I know he still does crap from his American Bad Ass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.13.33.164 (talk) 00:02, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem! Cheers_Dude (talk) 01:36, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Inactive
Can someone add the fact that he has been inactive for many weeks? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.113.193.137 (talk) 23:17, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Not really notable or true as he made an appearance on smackdown last night and is wrestling in the royal rumble so sorry Adster <font color="Blue">95  12:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

The Undertaker isn't on every week. It doesn't mean he's inactive, it just means he's a bigshot. He's been with the company for a long time so he doesn't have to work as much as the newer guys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.7.183 (talk) 20:22, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Steel Cage
I think his Steel Cage match with Big Show should be added because that is what ended the fued. Also, add the Shelton Benjerman interaction, plz. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.113.193.137 (talk) 04:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Age
44? Yeah right. Can someone find his real age and not the fake ring age of his alter ego? That's the oldest looking 44 year old on the planet. 01:17, 13 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.168.238.45 (talk)
 * That is his age that's not a ring age no wrestler as far as i know has a ring age that's different then there real age--Dcheagle (talk) 04:27, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

No! He is not 44. Wikipedia has to fix this! He was born on March 24, 1962. Which makes him 47. Check onlinworldofwrestling.com And also Mark Callaway IMDB.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wizardistari (talk • contribs) 01:25, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Royal Rumble
He may have a place but he won nothing yet. Then again, would he even manage to win against Edge? (most likely Yes) No one knows until it happens. Edit - Ben Mayo

202.160.45.28 (talk) 17:30, 16 January 2009 (UTC) The Undertaker was born on MArch 24 1962. He is in very good shap considering he is 47!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Firishq (talk • contribs) 15:04, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Royal Rumble 2009
Undertaker participated in the 2009 Royal rumble coming out at no.16 but the Big Show elimanted him by grabbing undertaker and got him out of the ring when the big show was elimanted already. In Smackdown! The Unddertaker succesfully won a elimantion chamber match at No Way Out for Edge's WWE Champion Undertaker deafaeted Mark Henrey by using his deadly Hells Gate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.51.232 (talk) 23:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * This isn't really necesary as we too watch smackdown. CFountain (talk) 21:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It isn't neccesary at all, because he didn't win the Rumble, so it's non-notable. <font face="copperplate gothic light"> Simon <font color="DarkCyan">KSK  21:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

What is the rule for adding notable matches some wrestlers have rumble appearance on there page, one notable thing about rumble would be taker and kane working together, I would add that because it seems taker and kane are begining to have a thing going ie undertaker going against randy to give kane a place in elimination chamber, I'm not saying add there are gonna b back together but it could be on the cards soon. But adding rumble and him and kane working together in rr is notable —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.144.25 (talk) 17:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That's WP:CRYSTAL <font face="copperplate gothic light"> Simon <font color="DarkCyan">KSK  23:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I didn't say add that they may be back together I said, add they were working together during the rumble, how's that crystal? Anybody who watched the rumble saw it happen! Simon read peoples posts. Also surely big show eliminating him after he was elimintaed was notable and proved that he was annoyed by the way he acted in the chamber. Both things are a contiuation of what happened last year ie big show fued. Guys get ur acts together and make undertakers page more interesting. Other pages have regular updates and they are nothing compared to mr phenom. Also I think sean vs Jbl and vlad vs the winner ( michaels) for takers wrestlmania streak should be added, this basically shows wrestler are more concerned about beating taker than winning titles —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.55.138 (talk) 23:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Your saying that Kane and Taker might become a team again. Crystal. Having a thing going would be like a tag team here. <font face="Verdana"> Simon KSK  23:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Right let's get something clear. Ok they are not getting together. But if you watched the rumble you would have seen that they were working together during the rumble, you could put something like: undertaker joined the rumble at number 16 he elimintaed X ammount of numbers and during the rumble he and kane glared at each other and worked together showing signs or the kayfabe brother relationship to try and eliminate other wrestlers. One notable wrestler that undertaker eliminated was the bigshow whilst going over the top ropeand being on the edge of the ring and after he eliminate big show, the big show retaliated by pulling taker to the floor and because he had not re entered the ring after eliminating big show he was eliminated. Showing signs of there fued from 2008 and the undertaker preceded to attack the big show after they were both eliminated.

Then continue by saying: after beating mark henry to earn a place in the championship elimination chamber the undertaker entered from the third chamber and focused his attack on the big show for most of the time in there which showed a continuation of there 2008 fued, he eliminated the bigshow and jeff hardy and was down to the final 2 before losing to triple H.

The final addition could be: After sean michaels had been freed from his JBL contracted, jbl informed michaels that his destiny was to beat takers winning streak at WM25. Michaels replied by saying that he was told at the rumble by taker that it can be hell trying to get into heaven and told jbl that it was his destiny to face the undertaker, they agreed to fight for the chance to face taker at WM25. On that weeks smackdown vickie announced that if anyone was going to face her superstars streak it would be a smackdown superstar vladamir kozlov. The folowing Monday sean michaels beat jbl and now it is michael's vs kozlov for a chance to face taker at WM25 asking as nothing goes wrong. This weeks smackdown saw the petential man to face undertaker (kozlov) beat taker in a 1 on 1 match.

I no this is a bit week by week but surely the row to wrestlmania weeks are significant an I'm sure more people will agree with this update than disagree. I believe that the biggest thing this year so far is the hype the takers streak is producing, I no u will say crystal again because we can't garuntee taker making it to WM25 but randy orton may not make it ie potential injuries but he has a spot at WM. So please add these updates after them being cleaned up and worded correctly taker deserves to have his page regulary updated with his constant main event status. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.183.243 (talk) 09:11, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Undertakers Weight
The undertaker may have started off with 299 pounds but he has gained more. In 2006-2007 he wegihed like 303 pounds to 309. Currently he weighs 323 pounds —Preceding unsigned comment added by Latino Kidd (talk • contribs) 17:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


 * WP:RS? <font face="copperplate gothic light"> Simon <font color="DarkCyan">KSK  21:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


 * They do not bill the Undertaker by his real weight because they don't want him to look fat. His real weight is in the 320's, and during 06, 07, and some of 08 he was billed as 305 (not sure about before that), but now he is "Billed" as 299.

This is when the "Real weight" and "Billed weight" section of his infobox comes in handy. His real weight probably has no reliable source, but in SVR 08, they some sort of character profile loading screan, and they list 'takes real weight in his, it's an unreliable source, but it's a source.

I am going to add his billed and real weight to the info box, if you disagree, you can get rid of it, it's that simple. Altenhofen (talk) 02:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * He definitely did not start off with 299 pounds. He started off with 320 pounds (as Ted Dibiase announced in the Undertaker's WWF debut match) and was later billed as 328, then 305 and finally 299 pounds. JBL had also mentioned that it is the first time that the Undertaker's weight is being announced as lesser than 299 pounds, and the WWE had an article on it called "Leaner and Meaner". His current billed weight stays at 299 pounds. Mayankeagle (talk) 18:56, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Sara
Calaway met his second wife, Sara, at a WWF autograph signing in San Diego, California He eventually married her in a ceremony in St. Petersburg, Florida on July 21, 2000. Mark and Sara have two daughters together: Chasey,(born on November 21, 2002) and Gracie,(born on May 15, 2005) As a wedding gift to Sara, Calaway had his wife's name tattooed onto his throat and has said this is the most painful tattoo he has ever had.

Vladimir Kozlov
In order for Vladimir Kozlov to get his tittle shot opportunity is to face and beat the Undertaker next friday. This was announced right after he defeated Chavo Guerrero in the casket match on Friday Night Smackdown. If Vladimir Kozlov defeats the Undertaker, he will get a WWE Championship match against Triple H at Survivor Series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.61.26.69 (talk) 02:26, 1 November 2008 (UTC) This is along time ago.Be in the future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.34.147 (talk) 23:36, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Friday Night! one day before No way out
The Undertaker competed in a fatal four way match in smackdown 2/13/09 he hit the tombstone on triple h and was about to win but then got chokeslamed by the big show,then the wwe champion ended the match by spearing the big show. Will the undertaker come out of No way out victorious and exit wrestlemainia 25 as the wwe champion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.74.138 (talk) 01:40, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Get in today....no way out passed!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is this article old????? I mean c mon back at undertakers fued with big show!!! thats old dude..........no way out passed c mon!!!!!!!!!!!! These editors arent doin a very good job.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.79.156 (talk) 21:22, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It's week by week. and it's non-notable to his career. <font face="Verdana"> Simon KSK  21:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

In Serious Need of an Update.
Survivor Series? Is that the most recent WWE Event? I think that we SERIOUSLY NEED TO UPDATE THIS ARTICLE!!! It's 4 months over due. Like for gods sake, he is one of the biggest stars in WWE, and has been for almost 2 decades (2 decades of dominance? Edge has some catching up to do!), so I think We should all pitch in and update the article a bit. Sure, he may not have done much since november, and this has been touched on in his talk page a few times in recent months, but the part of his page for the attitude era is practically filled with hour by hour info, and the recent part of his carear is missing.

Just a thought.

Altenhofen (talk) 02:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * He hasn't done anything notable so far, except for getting his aased kicked at No Way Out. After WrestleMania XXV, we'll add his win. <font face="Verdana"> Simon KSK  22:52, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

But in the other articles of the superstars who lost the chamber chamber matches it has been mentioned that they did take part in that match and how were they eliminated seriously dude you need to update this article. And what about the information about the matches which the Undertaker originated, created and the ones that are his specialty. Why was that information removed. if taker did originate those matches than you can't argue with that and it has been mentioned at Taker's fan site and his biography at wwe.com and infact articles of his specialty matches also mentions taker and yet you don't put it up. And when I try to put up hat information than you REMOVE it. Please if there is anything you could do at the very least to this article than please add this information ok. This is serious disrespect towards the Undertaker. Does anyone agree with me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali92shah (talk • contribs) 14:04, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, and the Fact that people are fighting for the right to chalenge the undertaker should be mentioned. Because normally, the Undertaker gets in a huge rivalry with someone and chalenges them. This year, JBL and HBK decided it was there destiny to beat undertaker at Wresltemania, then Vikki said that she was basicly sending Kozlov in to do it instead. It seriously needs updating, IT'S MARCH!!!!  Alten <font color="Gold">hofen   20:50, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

definately needs an update when your writing about the 2009 royal rumble you should watch it before posting information. Big show wasnt eliminated by the undertaker. randy orton eliminated him. Big show then pulled undertaker out as he was on the apron and eliminated him. get your info right. if you need a reliable source watch the paperview of the royal rumble 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.210.99.117 (talk) 12:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

you also need to edit the part about undertakers rivalry with edge. he was stripped of the title prior to judgement day not after. though he won the match at judgement day he didnt get the title because vikie guerrroro said the title cant be won by count out —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.210.99.117 (talk) 12:48, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Citation for Paul Bearer
I'm not sure how to add this in to the section about Paul Bearer's health condition (the last time he was seen) Here is the link I found and hopefully it can be used for the citation.

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/wherearetheynow/paulbearer

Rinbin26 (talk) 05:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Try putting it into Paul Bearer's article Super  Silver  901 undefined 00:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

His Destiny
It is offical that the Undertaker will face HBK at wrestlemainia XXV. After HBK defeated the UNDEAFETED vladimir kozlov on raw march 3,2009 and the undetaker also made a bone chilling suprise on raw that night —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.90.233 (talk) 01:02, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It's week by week, and a future event. When he wins at WM, we'll add it. <font face="Verdana"> Simon KSK  01:06, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Really?
The Undertaker profile on here has some lazy updaters cause no one wants to do any updates on, a) No Way Out b)matches on SmackDown c) his loss to Koslov, or d) his apperance on Raw. get it done- Steven DeLauder —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.13.53.139 (talk) 02:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Again we are not doing week-by-week updates the next time we will probably update is for the results of Undertaker vs. HBK. -- Super Silver  901 undefined 20:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

But the reader will notice a LARGE gap from Survivor Series to WM 25, you need to do your jub. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.13.53.139 (talk) 12:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah there is a large gap we will update when WM25 is over and what is a "jub"? BTW sign your post -- Super Silver  901 undefined 20:23, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

ummmm, ever hear of a god damn mistake?????-Stevem DeLauder(there, happy?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.13.53.139 (talk) 06:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No,No you sign your post with four tildes(~ ~ ~ ~)(excluding the spaces) -- Super Silver  901 undefined 20:10, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

The LEGENDARY Undertaker
Are u serious?? The undertaker is one of the best superstars ever and i know that beacause i have been watching WWE for 8 yrs. and even though i dont watch it anymore i still remember him. Update this article, this article is from Survivor seris a LONG time ago and even though he lost no way out its still worth to put that...comon.....update it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.89.216 (talk) 02:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Has Undertaker turned heel?
Or is he just getting more mic time? 84.71.222.234 (talk) 19:21, 10 March 2009 (UTC) I think it's more of a "this is an epic battle" promo between shawn and taker. He's always been demonic so I guess he's just exerting himself like he always does b4 mania —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.63.157 (talk) 16:38, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * No, he was given more mic-time similar to his lord-of-darkness or ministry-of-darkness days to create a good build-up with Shawn Michaels in a show of mutual respect, different from the regular build-ups which they did for the Undertaker's Wrestlemania matches in the last few years. Mayankeagle (talk) 18:52, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

WTF?????
You FINALLY had an update, and you delete it? What the hell is wrong with you?????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.13.33.179 (talk) 01:24, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Before hbk beat kozlov the commentators where refering to kozlov as the undefeated Moscow mualer, then before the weeks match with taker they said he was still undefated on smackdown so how about adding the undertaker is the only person on the smackdown roster to beat kozlov in singles competition and the 2nd in wwe behind hbk. Kozlov's undefeated run was in a way like takers streak and epically he beat kozlov a feat no one on SD has done. I no it's week by week but least it fills the gap, people who jump in and out of wrestling will think hey has taker been away and it keeps us all happy to have a few of the deadmans recent achievements/ main events on this page.

Simon if you don't wanna add week by week stuff fair enuf, I will say I'll make a fan page on an external link that will be updated everytime taker is featured on wwe, if you could put a Link on his page to keep fans of wiki an taker happy and that way you won't have to keep declining peoples request for an update. Makes every one happy so if that's what most people want then please reply an I will get to work on it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.136.195 (talk) 02:59, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Undertaker VS Shawn Michaels Feud
Umm Does anyone else think that this HUGE Feud between Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker should be listed? I mean come on these are the Last two Original Raw wrestlers (I know Taker is on Smackdown but i was meaning in reference to first time on TV) and they are both, no bias intedned, the most popular wrestlers in WWE and since they have a match at Wrestlemania I think it should be listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.167.109 (talk) 01:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

So many people agree with you mate believe me I've tried to get more updates added but it seems the admin for taker hates him. He was the first smackdown wrestler to beat kozlov. He did well at nwo he was cheated out of the rr and has recently been main eventing on SD with alot of air time and also on raw. The fued with shawn is intense look at the tag match and the messages they are sending ie michael's beating kane and taker beating michael's most recent enemy jbl but for some reason taker doesn't deserve updates I for 1 hate this page and would make a new one but it would probs get deleted. I'm gonna make a fan page with a week by week update for all you fans, based on telavised appearance and updates from wwe.com I'll make sure to add a link in discusion and hope no one deletes it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.136.207 (talk) 14:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Also, we have to count the 6 World Titles he's racked up, the infamous 16, soon to be 17-0 PERFECT record at WM, the man who made Buried Alive, Inferno, and Hell in a Cell famous!!!!!!! Who dosent know the KOTR Match with Mankind, ill tell ya, NOBODY!!!!!!! Please update his page! He deserves it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.13.41.71 (talk) 02:19, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * We do not list every single match, we do not list every single PPV result, just those that are significant. Darrenhusted (talk) 22:11, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Undertaker's actual age and date of birth.
People are still reporting a fake date of birth. All of the websites listed on his page say the same date of birth. And all of the events in his career correspond to that same date. Just think about it, if The Underrtake was born in the year 1965, he would have been the WWF champion at the age of 26. Which meant he would have been the youngest champion at that time. Don't you think the WWF would have made a bigger deal about it, or at least have made it public knowledge even after the fact(like they did when Yokozuna won it). It only makes sense that he was older when all of these events took place, especially when numerous magazines and websites publish the 1962 date of birth. I am not vandalizing his page, I am just merely correcting the obvious. Please stop warning me or I will report anyone changing this information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Juandope (talk • contribs) 01:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

- According to an article that appeared in the Houston Chronicle this morning, Undertaker is 44 years old. That means he was born in 1965. You'd think newspaper check for reliable sources when it comes to such information? Wikipedia is a no-no on that end. Believe me. HellFyre —Preceding undated comment added 00:37, 7 April 2009 (UTC).


 * Yes, the Undertaker was 26 years old when he won his first WWF championship, however it was not mentioned due to his character. The WWF/E had to preserve it, because he was often portrayed as a man who is not alive - therefore a birthday or age did not hold any significance for him. Mayankeagle (talk) 18:49, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Correcting trainer info
I know that Don Jardine helped train Taker but my husband, Rick Davidson, also trained him but gets little credit for it. I'm not able to correct this information but would appreciate it if someone could do it for me. It would be a great tribute to the memory of Rick. Bigmarkfan (talk) 23:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC)