Talk:The Vampira Show

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Is the kinescope discussed in the article of an actual show? I've been told that it was a recreation that the cast and crew did for a sales film produced by KABC-TV using the script from that show in 1954.Nitelinger 16:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Is the existing "Vampira" footage actually a kinescope?
It is indeed possible that the known existing footage of the "Vampira" show was re-shot for purposes of inclusion in the presentation film that it was subsequently discovered in-- however, as the footage was re-shot shortly after the original live broadcast on the same studio set, using the station's video cameras and kinescope apparatus to record the output, the resultant footage is (for all intents and purposes) the equivalent of what it is represented to be.

-Kevin Segura, LiveFeed Video Imaging

--Rerunmedia 07:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I've seen the footage, which appeared on a couple of KABC programs. It was a part of the sales film. It is certainly representative of what the show was(and all that apparently exists), but it was not a recording of an actual broadcast show. I'm not trying to reduce the historical significance of the footage, but rather simply trying to ascertain if what I was told (by someone who apparently funded part of the restoration) is true. Nitelinger 19:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I have no reason to doubt that story, given the source of the information... who I assume got the story directly from Ms. Nurmi. It's practically the only way it makes sense for the footage to exist in the first place, as there was no incentive for KABC to have kinescoped the original broadcast, since the show was not being syndicated anywhere.  The only reason it **might** have been done was at the request of a sponsor, in order to verify that their ad spots were aired.


 * And, since the original live broadcast was 5 years before I was born, I really can't definitively state that the footage is **not** from the original airing... but again, since the existing footage is clearly electronically-generated, kinescoped video, shot shortly afterward on the set at KABC, and using the episode's original script, well... I think in this case, "a difference which makes no difference is no difference."


 * But that's just me-- everyone else's mileage may vary. :^)


 * -Kevin Segura, LiveFeed Video Imaging


 * --Rerunmedia 19:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I don't know if it's a kinoscope or directly filmed, but claiming it's the show itself isn't right.MartinSFSA (talk) 06:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Contradiction?
This article states:

Ten years after The Vampira Show's first broadcast, ABC aired The Addams Family. The character of Morticia Addams (portrayed by Carolyn Jones), was modeled on Nurmi's Vampira character.

While the Vampira article states:

Nurmi herself claimed that Vampira's image was in part based on the Charles Addams New Yorker cartoon character "Morticia Addams", though she told BOXOFFICE Magazine in 1994 that she had intentionally deviated from Addams' mute and flat-chested creation, making her own TV character "campier and sexier" to avoid plagiarizing Addams' idea.

Is this a contradiction? Was the character of Vampira based on Morticia Addams or was it the other way around? Devil Master (talk) 14:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

The character of Vampira was based on the New York Times cartoon The Addams Family's female lead (who was unnamed in the original comic). The character of Morticia Addams in the television show (which aired about a decade after Vampira was on television) was of course based on the comic strip character as well, though heavily influenced by the character of Vampira. Scorpion (talk) 10:42, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Vampira fired for Communist leanings or not?
In the fiction/biographical film Ed Wood, Vampira is fired from her job, and is thus available to work for Ed Wood. A closeup shot shows a fictitious newspaper article that reads, in part: {{quotation|

Vampira Fired From Channel 7
Fear Forces Firing of Fright Film Hostess

LOS ANGELES -- It was announced today that local horror film hostess, Vampira would be removed from her position. The announcement by lawyers for the television station came following leaked revelations of the actress' alleged connection with suspected Communist party...

}} Is there any truth to this reason for her firing from KABC or KHJ? It contradicts this article.

The book Vampira: Dark Goddess of Horror, by W. Scott Poole, contains the following: "Nurmi, and many who have written about her, have claimed that she was 'blacklisted' from television after 1956...There seems to be no sense in which Nurmi found herself out of work because of politics, despite her tenuous connection to radicals like Rudi Gernreich and Harry Hay."

Other Web sources present this contradiction (fired for refusing to sign away her rights as Vampira to the station, versus fired for Communist leanings) with no resolution. Shouldn't we be very curious as to the actual reason for the firing? David Spector (talk) 00:14, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Why does it say no footage exists?
It's right here on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs0ehPgyD3U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfo_jCzRJuU — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.121.16.108 (talk) 00:17, 29 June 2015 (UTC)