Talk:The Violent Bear It Away

Cleanup
Alright, I fixed this article up a little. I hope its alright. Caesar 23:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Catholic or Protestant Themes?
The opening paragraph claims that this novel, like much other work of O'Connor, contains many Catholic themes, but (regardless of O'Connor being Catholic herself) they're actually fundamentalist-Protestant. Miss Tabitha 03:21, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Referring to Francis Marion Tarwater, O'Connor says, "When you leave a man alone with his Bible and the Holy Ghost inspires him, he’s going to be a Catholic one way or another, even though he knows nothing about the visible church" (Habit of Being, p. 517). Biasedbulldog (talk) 02:47, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

It's debatable. I guess there really isn't anything specifically Catholic, and Tarwater is definetaly fundementalist. I would still label it as Catholic literature, however.

-Caesar

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"Friend" and "Rapist" - Satan himself
These are not "possibly" incarnations of the devil. They most certainly are the devil, as O'Connor notes in The Habit of Being on pages 367 and 375. I changed the characters section to reflect this.

(I'd also argue that the drunk in the park by the fountain is probably Satan himself. He essentially echoes the friend's language, and he seems vaguely familiar to Tarwater.  That's not absolutely clear, though.) Biasedbulldog (talk) 03:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

"Friend" and "Rapist" are the same character
The Rapist is the Friend in tangible form. He has the Friend's violet eyes, for instance. Johndburt (talk) 02:40, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * That's one interpretation. This is a novel, its meaning appears in interaction with its readers. WP should not baldly claim or insinuate that this is the only interpretation. However, it would be appropriate to put a sourced and cited claim like that in a section about interpretations, in particular if we can quote the author (just not in the plot summary). 149.7.163.134 (talk) 21:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Plot summary inaccuracy
The summary of the first chapter is actually a summary of the story "You Can't Be Any Poorer Than Dead," which is the basis of this chapter. However, the novel differs significantly from the story. I'm reluctant to rewrite it, but it is in urgent need of revision. Reading the chapter is all that's required to see that it is seriously misrepresented here. SpencerM (talk) 00:37, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Summary confusion
Francis is called "Francis" through three paragraphs of the summary. In the fourth paragraph he becomes "Tarwater," which is confusing. 60.102.230.200 (talk) 08:43, 2 June 2023 (UTC)