Talk:The Weakest Link (British game show)

US show
"As of 2003, The Weakest Link has been cancelled in the US. The primary problem with the format is that the best players tend to get voted off, because of the winner-take-all format and the final playoff. If you're an average player, you're better off having a good chance of winning a small pot than having a small chance of winning of big pot."

That's not a "problem". It's inherent in the format. Surely that's not the reason it was taken off.

As I said before. The Weakest Link predates Survivor (at least in the UK and USA) so the voting system being inspired by that show is untrue. Mintguy 14:37 28 Jul 2003 (UTC)


 * The Weakest Link did not predate Survivor. I'd need a month on Weakest Link but Survivor premiered in the US in May 2000. Mike H 20:00, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. The Weakest Link was first shown in the UK in August 2000. I still say that the voting system was not inspired by "Survivor" as Survivor was not shown in the UK until 2002. Mintguy (T)


 * The comparisons would be valid for America but not for Britain. Mike H 00:04, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)

I agree - the 'flaws' are nothing of the sort. If selling a format to 60+ countries is flawed, I'd love more of those flaws! I think the US critics have unnecessarily criticised the programme because they don't like the idea of unfair rules. I have trimmed the article and added a few factiods where I felt useful.

The US show did 90 prime time versions, so it is slightly misleading to say that it was 'removed'. It was originally intended to do a series of 13. It was a massive prime time hit that ran its natural course. Unless I'm going blind, there is not even a section about the US at all on the Weakest Link enty now. I think I might try and add some general info to the international section when I get a moment, it needs an update. RMM77

Ok I have now added in a section on the US. RMM77

An anonymous user 66.183.26.64 removed the entire US section without explaining why. I have now reinstated it.

Removed the hair-splitting waffle about the definite article in the programme's title. -- Picapica 21:41, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Removed the following:


 * "The show also was a first in one aspect: previously, women only hosted game shows as temporary guest hosts. Weakest Link differed from all game shows which ran before it, as they only had men as permanent hosts.  Anne Robinson thus became the first female permanent host of a game show."

Female quiz hosts were unusual, I grant you, but not unknown. One striking example: Angela Rippon on Masterteam. -Q4 17:15, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

I would like to pay attention of the editing board to the fact that there is one more version of "The Weakest Link" - Russian.It is called "Slaboye zveno"("weakest link) and is broadcasted by !st channel or ORT.

the exception being a celebrity player...
"Whoever gets the most votes at the end of the round is eliminated from the game, and leaves with no money (the exception being a celebrity player, who gets a small amount for their charity)."

Tosh - the celebrity winners sometimes volunteer to split their winnings with whoever comes second - that's it.

So I've removed the latter part of the above

Image

 * I think the image of Mate should be flipped so that she faces left. - The Good Doctor 05:41, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

The format
I have arranged the international versions by continent, since there was no arrangement before then. I don't really know whether Russia and Turkey should be under the Asia or Europe section (they are in both continents!!!) - I have currently put both in the Asia section. RaNdOm26 09:18, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Phrase in pop-culture
There should be a section on that.

Suggestion
When I looked through the article it didn't mention anything about the video game that was released, based on the TV show. It should at least be mentioned in the article if not have an article about the video game itself. If anyone ould like to discuss this further leave me a message on my talk page. Xtreme racer 04:31, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Article Title
This program's name has always been The Weakest Link and it has not changed. The program has a different name the US which has a separate article: Weakest Link (US).

I suggest that article is moved to The Weakest Link and the reference to a former title removed. AuroraD 12:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Moved, I'll change various parts of the article to conform with the move. Will Bradshaw 16:31, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

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Trying to shorten the article by making table instead of having too many aritcles.
The article of the weakest link is way too long. Probably suggest to make a table like those on the articles of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire and Deal or No Deal. I mean, who wants an article composed of may little other ones? Come on, I suggest that someone shorten it, the article looks kind of horrible with the table unfinished. Or I don't know, if no one approves this suggestion, then i'll take the table off. --24.92.126.217 15:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

There was alot of important info about weakest link now someone deleted it dumb asses

Category:Weakest Link
The cat is up for deletion. We should be splitting some of the longer articles here so the category is more abundant, because the only thing people want to delete it is because it has little articles. RaNdOm26 14:29, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

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Azerbaijan, Ukraine Iran
I have removed the reference to the Azerbaijan version being only one series long. It lasted for more than one series. It was also stated that most international versions only lasted for one series. This is not the case at all so I have removed that.

No Ukranian or Iranian versions of this show were ever licensed by BBC Worldwide so I have removed them. I would imagine that the one viewable in Iran was the Future TV version on Arabsat from Lebanon. However, if another version was aired in Iran, it would have been an unauthorised copy and therefore does not belong on this page which is specifically about the Weakest Link format, and not shows that are similar to that format. RMM77

Germany and Hungary
A user with IP 66.183.26.64 deleted the entire German and Hungarian sections without explaining why. I have reinstated it exactly as it was until someone can explain why!

I certainly think it's important that viewers from each country listed in the main table also have the right to write and read about the details of their local version. RMM77

New Zealand UKTV
New Zealand is able to recieve the british version on UKTV as well. Does this count? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.185.14.132 (talk) 05:08, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

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Name Change
I'm going to change the name of this article and slightly shortern the length of it as I'm gong to add a International page like Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? and Dancing with the Stars. Pafcool2 (talk) 21:32, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Scheduling
It's been KOed by Euro 2008 - this would still have happened on BBC2, as they're showing tennis. Is it worth mentioning? Digifiend (talk) 14:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

countback
I have seen mentions of "countback" having been used on occasions to eliminate players. What does this mean?

188.221.51.29 (talk) 18:24, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Celebrity Winners
There's too much obsession on celebrity players here. Who won the game? I believe Basil Brush was one of them? Slightnostalgia (talk) 15:29, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Merger Proposal
I propose that Weakest Link be merged into The Weakest Link (UK game show), since it seems that the two articles are about exactly the same thing, and it would be nice to eliminate the redundancy and to have all the information in just one place.Catgirl (talk) 19:39, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Support. After merging the details move Weakest Link to International versions of The Weakest Link, similar to International versions of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?  Staszek Lem (talk) 20:25, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Support. I agree that this could clear up some redundancy, although I feel it might be better to merge this article into that one instead. I don't actually care which way it goes, though, as long as it goes. I was just bringing up the idea of going the other way up for consideration, not because I feel strongly about it. Macks2008 (talk) 16:27, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Support. I believe these two articles are almost identical and should be merged. Starsky135 (talk) 21:07, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Support. As stated by many others, there needs to be a merger between the two articles to clean up the topic. Shame nothing's happened yet as of 10/03/2017. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.166.39 (talk) 19:45, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Support. But the article should be named appropriately to reflect its many national editions and sections on each version where the information is relevant. : I believe you have the consensus you sought! Crowsus (talk)
 * Support. Looking at the two articles I cannot see a need for both.Dunarc (talk) 15:59, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Support - No need for 2 articles on the exact same programme, Better off merged in to one big article. – Davey 2010 Talk 16:04, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Everyone has agreed, its been over year so I'm going to merge. --Crazyseiko (talk) 11:51, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 24 March 2019

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Moved: While a minority consider the UK show the primary topic, the consensus is with making the international page a WP:CONCEPTDAB at the base title. Separately, the Weakest Link move is common sense and unopposed, and is also necessarily to free up the term for a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to The Weakest Link (since the presence of WP:THE does not affect the relative importance of any of the topics listed). King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:38, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * International versions of The Weakest Link → The Weakest Link
 * Weakest Link → The Weakest Link (disambiguation)

The Weakest Link (UK game show) → The Weakest Link – Currently, this is unnecessary disambiguation. Apparently, the current The Weakest Link redirect originally pointed to Weakest Link,. But after the above 2017 merger discussion, most of the content on Weakest Link was merged here, and the redirect was changed accordingly. Weakest Link was subsequently changed to a disambiguation page. I have no other opinion about making the primary topic or redirect something else, or whether the International versions of The Weakest Link page should be moved instead to serve as the board-concept-article of The Weakest Link game show franchise. I'm only concerned that the current situation is unacceptable. Zzyzx11 (talk) 19:11, 24 March 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 15:50, 10 April 2019 (UTC)  --Relisting. B dash (talk) 03:41, 19 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Move International versions of The Weakest Link to The Weakest Link and adjust to be a franchise summary/BROADCONCEPT per WP:NCTV (see similar handling of Deal or No Deal, Got Talent, Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? franchises). Move Weakest Link to The Weakest Link (disambiguation) as a standard simple DAB page, since most entries use that title. I'd also suggest a history split and merge from the earlier versions of Weakest Link to resolve the copy-and-paste done on 24 October 2017‎. -- Netoholic @ 20:40, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Opposed. Move The Weakest Link to DAB page International versions of The Weakest Link. The Weakest Link should not redirect to The Weakest Link (UK game show) since there is also The Weakest Link (Australian game show), The Weakest Link (Irish game show), The Weakest Link (New Zealand game show) and Weakest Link (U.S. game show). Then add any necessary hatnotes to International versions of The Weakest Link. AldezD (talk) 00:55, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Support and Move International versions of The Weakest Link, Weakest Link and The Weakest Link (UK game show) to The Weakest Link since most of the same said information that has been mentioned in the three mentioned articles need to be merged. Neverrainy (talk) 17:50, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Support, the original game show is the Ptopic.  Lazz _R  19:33, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Support the Move above as proposed by the first two !voters. Oppose the move as suggested.--Yaksar (let's chat) 01:19, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose proposed move but support moving the "international versions", which acts as a base article, to The Weakest Link instead. Whether the UK version is the original or primary should not matter much here, as it's global enough that it's hard to justify assigning the primary article title to a particular country's variant. The article Weakest Link should then point to this newly moved article with the info on this current DAB page merged. In essence, you would then have a single central/primary article covering the show as a whole, and individual country articles formatted equally. Bungle (talk • contribs) 17:14, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak support since this is the one all the other uses are based on.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:15, 23 April 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.