Talk:The Wedding of River Song

Grammar
"but he is left keenly aware that the moment when the Question of the Silence will be asked; "Doctor Who?"" I´m sorry, but to me that sentence doesn`t make sense. Can someon clarify? 101090ABC (talk) 20:56, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 21:47, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Content
"and that the order of the Silence, chose Lake Silencio in Utah as his place of his death" - I thought they said it was (something along the lines of) a 'quiet place/point' which made it easier to generate a fixed point in time?
 * A "still point in time," I think it was - not that we know what that is. 109.156.208.18 (talk) 11:28, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Something for the continuity section...
The Silence call Rory the man that keeps on dying, referring to his apparent deaths in Amy's Choice, Cold Blood, Day of the Moon, The Curse of the Black Spot, and The Doctor's Wife. Vuvuzela2010 (talk) 00:46, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Which is interesting, as only a time traveler would be able to know of those things, Amy wasn't the flesh in most of those events, as I recall.Wzrd1 (talk) 02:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

The Silence (species) are telepathic beings, they can read minds, as shown in The Impossible Astronaut when one of them kills a woman and then informs Amy that she was called Joy. 86.138.35.215 (talk) 18:38, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

^^^ I don't think that's necessarily established incontrovertibly. Since nobody remembers seeing them, the Silence could have easily just been hanging around somewhere and overheard her name with no-one realizing it. Doesn't necessarily mean they're telepathic. Lvsxy808 (talk) 11:59, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

The reason people forget them is because they're telepathic. Mind control etc. I know there is no real source for this, but I think Moffat realised we were all bored of hearing pseudoscientific words like 'telepathic' and just assumed we would know that some aliens could do that by now. It has never been stated in the New Series that the Doctor and other Time Lords are telepathic, I don't think, but we have made that assumption. Plus, this is more forum material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.201.85 (talk) 16:48, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Wedding part
That part isn't trivial and editors here keep getting confused and attaching the wrong reasons behind it when they edit this article. Here's what happened: They got married -> River is now "family" with the Doctor -> As we saw in Let's Kill Hitler, only family gets access to confidential data -> the device allows the Doctor inside to tell River that he's actually a tiny Doctor inside a device (that he already made a workaround to escape death). That's why they got married, so she'll know that she won't be killing him if she reverts time back to the way it's supposed to be. Unless I am wrong, too :) ailaG (talk) 06:56, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * At the time, no one knew that the Doctor and River were married, so the Teselacts wouldn't have used this reason. DonQuixote (talk) 13:33, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The Teselacts knew, they were witnesses (AFAIK one can't operate this thing on his own). Either way, there's no grounds to the claim made on this article, that the wedding was done "to alleviate her pain", seems more like a guess or a conjecture. ailaG (talk) 17:14, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, misread your comment there. Anyway, the family bit was only for confidential data.  There's nothing in the episode that says that only family can look through a physical eye-hole. DonQuixote (talk) 17:24, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * But for the machine to tell her to look (therefore exposing confidential data) the machine would require sufficient permissions. Why else would he spontaneously marry her, of all things? I mean, that marriage scene is cute and all, but when's the last time you were in a critical situation and said "oh, I know, I'll marry somoene!" :) IF he could've told her to look into his eye without all that drama, he'd just do it.
 * ("Oh hello River-of-this-reality! Let's resume the flow of the time stream!" "But I don't want to kill you!" "Look into my eye" "Oh, alrighty then" would cut around 20 minutes off the episode :P ) ailaG (talk) 14:14, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That's your interpretation. If you can find a secondary source that mentions something similar, then feel free to cite it. Another interpretation might be the Doctor saying, "Now that you're my wife, please do as I ask (in front of these witnesses)" (paraphrasing). DonQuixote (talk) 18:04, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Roman Emperor or Holy Roman Emperor?
Would you please check if Winston Churchill is shown (during the time confusion) as Roman Emperor, i.e. emperor of the Roman Empire during imperial times, beginning in 27 B.C., or as Holy Roman Emperor, i.e. emperor of the Holy Roman Empire founded in 800 B.C. by Charlemagne. The facts that Churchill is called "Ceasar", and that we see flags with the inscription "SPQR" in front of his palace IMHO are significant indications that it's the former. Sebastian Klein (talk) 21:37, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * She says "Holy Roman Emperor". DonQuixote (talk) 21:53, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * And aside from that, in this episode above all there is no point appealing to real history. Barsoomian (talk) 02:43, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Rondo Haxton
Should there be a redirect made to this article or Mark Gatiss himself when someone searches for that on Wikpedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.53.26 (talk) 13:04, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * We have already Rondo Hatton. Hektor (talk) 05:31, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Reassessment?
I have just added this article to the BBC wikiproject. However the assessment of the page by the other projects seems odd and suggests that the assessment is out of date. This article is too complete for a start class. Rafmarham (talk) 22:09, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

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