Talk:The Wind in the Willows (1996 film)

Movie pictures
Does anyone have any shots of the movie that could be put on the article? BKalesti 18:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Ex-Monty Python to Monty Python
I changed "ex-Monty Python" to "Monty Python", as Eric Idle has said repeatedly they don't consider themselves ex-Pythons (with the exception of Graham, being dead).

Plot
I appologize to Gazza1992 for removing the 3 last sentences so I could expand a bit. I tried to keep as much of the original as possible. Hoverfish 21:11, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Mr Toad Wild Ride.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Wind 1996.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 03:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Original song?
I realise the words are different, but "Messing About On The River" is musically based on the song of the same name written by Tony Hatch in the 1960s, and famously performed by Josh MacRae. 86.170.203.154 (talk) 20:21, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Opinion
In my opinion, it's either good or rubbish because the water of the river sings while Ratty and Mole role the boat. The river can't talk because it doesn't talk. Ratty sings Nothing Messing About On The River. This film is based on the classic children's book from 1908 and this version may not be the worst, but it may not be one of the best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.126.255.250 (talk) 23:17, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Differences in the book and the film of 1996
There are a lot of differences between the original Kenneth Grahame book and the screenplay by Terry Jones in the film.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.48.73.26 (talk) 13:42, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The clock calling tea time during his spring cleaning and Mole's underground home being ruined by an earthquake making him run away in a panic by the weasels and straight to Ratty's place at once (all to which happens in the film) replaces the original script of Mole getting whitewash all over himself saying 'Oh, bother! Oh blow! hang spring cleaning!, escaping up the ground into the fresh air and taking a springtime walk before meeting Ratty in the book.
 * In the book Ratty met Otter at the picnic but in the film he meets Otter for one second in the river before telling the rabbits off for being careful on their bikes (of which cycling rabbits never happened in the book)
 * Some of the original book script about Ratty saying the long list of picnic food when both Rat and Mole leave the house again, eating the picnic on the bank meeting Otter and his son Portly (seen in the book but not in the film). Badger seeing the picnic for one second and grunting 'Hm! Company!' got cut out for the film part as of Ratty rowing Mole to Toad Hall straight away.

Please explain
@koavf: Having flagged inadequacy of this article's lede, please now explain just what details are desirable in the intro of a relatively trivial subject such as this movie. Personally, I think some of the content can be dispensed with, e.g., the names of cast which are triplicated in the infobox and cast sections. Wouldn't it be enough to state the variant titles, country of origin, year of release (not exact date) and, of course, the original creator Kenneth Grahame? On that basis, this lede is too long rather than short. On the other hand, I find plenty of unsatisfactory content in the remainder of the article, e.g., the box-office dollar values which are encyclopedically meaningless unless periodically compared against fluctuating currency values. May I respectfully suggest that you consider editing an article in a sincere fashion rather than merely using a blunderbuss to blast aimless holes here and there? Bjenks (talk) 01:07, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming good faith here with your question, although there is no reason to characterize my editing like you do. If you look at an article like The Fountain (movie), it contains all of the elements that a lead should have. E.g. it explains the plot, which is almost always the largest section of a film article. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:57, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I see and, according to MOS:FILM, I now also see that a lead section on a film "should...provide a summary of the most important aspects of the film from the article body. At minimum, the opening sentence should identify the following elements: the title of the film, the year of its public release, and the primary genre or sub-genre under which it is verifiably classified." Optionally, we learn, there can be a plot summary and other content in later lead paragraphs. You may wish to see some of this detail duplicated, in which case you are entitled to make the addition. Personally, if it were deemed necessary, I would prefer to click on the provided wikilink— to see the basic plot written by Grahame—before moving to the section on the film's plot and its variations from the original. I believe there remains reasonable discretion to minimise the lead section in the case of a not-particularly-noteworthy film. Bjenks (talk) 04:21, 3 May 2017 (UTC)