Talk:The World's Billionaires/Archive 1

Starting 2009 page
I've started the page and am currently preparing information for positions 1-25. If anyone else wishes to contribute, Please indicate what you are working on here, so we do not duplicate effort.

I am currently cutting&pasting entries from last year, updating worth, age, and position number plus the profit/loss indications. Due to the likelyhood of edit conflicts, I suggest you copy your edit window contents before saving, because some browsers (e.g. IE) will throw awy all your work if you step back to the edit page after a conflict.

I'm also moving the 2008 list and redirecting the "current" page here. -- Tcncv (talk) 03:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC) son of a bitch


 * Now working 26-50. -- Tcncv (talk) 04:01, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Now working 51-75. -- Tcncv (talk) 00:24, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

how come other walton members are missing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.40.104.158 (talk) 16:57, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism
Due to the recent acts of vandalism, I suggest locking the page to new or unregistered users. 500 pages of vandalism vs. undoing in the history to back me up. Ericloewe (talk) 21:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I just suggested this at Requests for page protection. Regards, HaeB (talk) 16:13, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * There needs to be further protection on this page. I just reverted a slew of vandalism that occurred today.  Also, I notice that "#86" on the list is in the wrong position, can anyone first verify this and then fix it?  &mdash; Super-Magician (talk • contribs • count) 00:59, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Gallery
Why there should be a photo gallery in the lead section of the article? --Jaqen (talk) 21:12, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Why not? It is typical of Wikipedia articles to contain a few images relating to their topic.  Usually as part of an infobox.  However, this article is about a number of people, so someone in the past chose to include images of the top four or five.  The horizontal placement may have been chosen because a vertical arrangement in the right-hand margin would have limited the available table width.  -- Tcncv (talk) 23:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I like the gallery, I think we may want to do top 3 instead of top five though. Bases solely on the data on the page, there is a significant gap between #3 and #4, but lots of people with wealth approximately equal to 20 billion us dollars.  Mathiastck (talk) 19:47, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Chinese billionaires
Moved from Talk:tcncv.

Hi, sorry if this is the wrong place for this question, not sure of alternative ways to ask it on Wiki. I see that no Chinese people are included in the list of world's billionaires except for on their own page. One in particular is worth more than even the Walton's, just wondering why they are excluded, or if it is just a matter of time and getting them added. I would offer to help, but I only know the most basic of edits, and don't really understand the table formatting. I saw the disclaimer that heads of state types are excluded, just wanting clarification as to the Chinese exclusion. Thanks, captbrian23 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Captbrian23 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I took the liberty of moving this question from my talk page. This article is based on the list published by Forbes and includes the top 100 from their published list.  Forbes identified several Chinese billionaires on their list, but they were not in the top 100.  There are also quite a few from Hong Kong, some of which are included on our page.  Forbes also listed a few more are listed for Taiwan.  If some top billionaires didn't show up, I suspect that either the information was unavailable to Forbes, or the information was unverifiable.  You can review forbes's methodology here.  Wikipedia are not in the business of conducting WP:original research, an instead relies on inormation information from [WP:reliable sources]], to drive the content of our articles.  -- Tcncv (talk) 06:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * So? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize this list is constrained to well-known Western (NA + Europe) billionaires and a few token ones from Asia. Probably should be renamed or something. It's not a reliable source if it's omitting a large portion of the larger economies. Brianrusso (talk) 13:31, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Oprah Winfrey?
According to her article, her net worth is over $2.7 billion as of September 2008. Is there some reason she's not on the non-Forbes list? -- as 66.116.12.126 (talk) 05:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

List is very poor
Where is the sultan of brunei? Where is the Queen of England? Where is vladimir putin? --Blue Tie (talk) 04:51, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Did you read the last sentence of the lede? --Cyber cobra (talk) 04:56, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * oops... missed it. But I still object on two grounds:  1.  It says that the wealth is tied to their position.  That may be the case for the Queen of England but it is not the case for Vladimir Putin.  It appears to be an arbitrary discriminator.  2.  Why remove heads of state anyway?--Blue Tie (talk) 15:24, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I would guess (but haven't checked) that the Forbes list this article is primarily based on does the same thing. I agree it's somewhat arbitrary. --Cyber cobra (talk) 02:49, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Per, Re: List is very poor
It is said at the top of the page why some of the persons you just mentioned aren't on the list. But you are right about the poorness of Forbes list. Forbes lists are always very inaccurate. I for instance don’t get, that Maersk McKinney Moller (the shipping giant) isn’t on the list. While Forbes claims Maersk to be worth 1.8 billion $, a Danish source, Belingske Nyhedsmargasin, estimates the figure to be around 25.5 billion $. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.242.113.113 (talk) 22:31, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Company titles don't acctualy tell what they do
Can't someone add column about in what industry they are in ? Sure Microsoft, IKEA and Walmart are household names, but you have to go and check every other company to see from what they actually made the money (and my Internet connection is frustratingly sluggish so it makes it really annoying)  Xil  (talk) 21:07, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

lies
hey i don't believe all that where on earth do you get these figures. Or maybe you got something with them who knows —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.30.31.182 (talk) 10:03, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Not mentioned
I noticed there are several not mentioned here. For instance people like the Queen of England (14 Billion), and several actors like Samuel L Jackson with nearly 8 billion should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by D.R. Pepper M.D. (talk • contribs) 23:53, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

hassan bhatti
where is hassan bhatti. he not that famous be he has over 4.3 billian dollers US. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.116.10.38 (talk) 15:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Buffett
his age is 79, not 78 —Preceding unsigned comment added by MangyKitty (talk • contribs) 01:54, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I CAN SEE THAT THE MOST BILLIONAIRE CLUBS ARE JUST 5 WORLD'S BILLIONAIRE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.210.24.118 (talk) 05:21, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Charlene de Carvalho-Heineken?
Is Charlene de Carvalho-Heineken missing out on this list? List_of_Dutch_by_net_worth says that she's worth $7.2billion

this is not updated.
update it, the 100's place need to be Shari Arison, an israeli business woman that have 3.5 Billion $.

i hope you will edit that, and fix it, i dont know why, i cannot edit that. JAK0070 (talk) 23:53, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

List of wealthiest families
Would someone make a list of the wealthiest families in the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Murad123 (talk • contribs) 21:01, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Where's Naguib Sawiris? he's got 12.7 billion $
Where's the Egyptian businessman Naguib Sawiris??Forbes estimated his wealth as 12.7 Billion dollars which means that he must be the 25th just before Micheal Dell.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.153.35.170 (talk) 09:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Tamil Vandalism
Michael Bloomberg has been replaced by the tamil leader by User: Ellaalan

Changes undone by GeorgeDorgan (talk) 09:27, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Steve Jobs?
According to the wikipedia page, Steve Jobs has a net worth of 5.1 billion. Shouldn't he be at number 100? —  Magnesium ⚛ 21:37, 21 January 2010 (UTC)