Talk:The Writing's on the Wall/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 06:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

(Criteria marked are unassessed)
 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
 * b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a. (reference section):
 * b. (citations to reliable sources):
 * c. (OR):
 * d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a. (major aspects):
 * b. (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
 * b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/fail:
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a. (major aspects):
 * b. (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
 * b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/fail:
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
 * b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/fail:
 * b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/fail:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/fail:
 * Pass/fail:

This is going to take at least two days, nevertheless I'll start now! --K. Peake 06:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

 * Replace hlist with bullet points per Template:Infobox album
 * A space is needed before (Berkeley)
 * Pipe Kevin "She'kspere" Briggs to Kevin Briggs (music producer)
 * Pipe Beyoncé Knowles to Beyoncé
 * Pipe Chris Stokes to Chris Stokes (filmmaker)
 * You need to write out the July 14 release date in prose for it to be mentioned in the lead
 * Remove "for The Writing's on the Wall" because this is implied
 * Pipe Kevin "She'kspere" Briggs to Kevin Briggs (music producer)
 * "Rodney Jerkins and LaShawn Daniels," → "Rodney Jerkins, and LaShawn Daniels,"
 * "with each of its tracks representing a" → "with each track representing a" to be less repetitive
 * "infidelity and separation," → "infidelity, and separation,"
 * Remove "the album" at the end of this sentence since throughout implies this
 * "hip hop and soul record" → "hip hop, and soul record"
 * The Staccato vocals are not sourced as being layered anywhere in the body
 * Add a comma after Billboard 200
 * "and success of its singles, the album's sales" → "and success of the singles, its sales"
 * "Consequently, it peaked at number five" → "Consequently, The Writing's on the Wall peaked at number five" and mentioned the country the certification was in
 * "with its accompanying music video" → "with the accompanying music video" with the wikilink
 * "became the group's first" → "became Destiny Child's first"
 * Pipe Mainstream Top 40 to Pop Airplay
 * "The accompanying music video for" → "The music video for"
 * "from the group mere" → "from Destiny's Child a mere"
 * "noting its immense influence" → "noting the immense influence" and remove its before release too

Background and development

 * The Teresa LaBarbera Whites and manager parts are not sourced
 * "became the group's manager." → "became their manager."
 * The release month of "No, No, No" is unsourced
 * Mention the country that the certification was in and add a comma after RIAA
 * The "With Me" part is unsourced
 * "label their debut album" → "label the album"
 * "not hugely successful" as" → "not hugely successful", as"
 * "and disliked about the debut" → "and disliked about Destiny's Child"

Recording and production

 * Pipe Beyoncé Knowles to Beyoncé on the quote box
 * Remove wikilink on Beyonc in prose
 * "later claimed the group wasn't" → "later recalled that Destiny's Child was not" per WP:CLAIM
 * "the album saw" → "Destiny's Child saw"
 * "LeToya Luckett nine and" → "LeToya Luckett nine, and"
 * "relationships and financial hardships." → "relationships, and financial hardships."
 * "suggested the group to" → "suggested Destiny's Child to"
 * Pipe Kevin "She'kspere" Briggs to Kevin Briggs (music producer)
 * "where majority of" → "where the majority of"
 * The four additional songs produced are not mentioned by the source
 * "at the time of the album's production," → "at the time of production," to be less wordy
 * "alongside the group's manager" → "alongside Destiny Child manager"
 * "defined the album's sound." → "defined the sound of The Writing's on the Wall."
 * "LaShawn Daniels and the group members." → "LaShawn Daniels, and the group members."
 * Remove "of the song" after new mix because this is implied by the last sentence
 * "included on the album." → "included on The Writing's on the Wall."
 * "which were recorded" if they were recorded at these two studios then add "both", if separate studios then "respectively"
 * "at the Electric Lady Studios in" → "at Electric Lady Studios in" per the article

Music and lyrics

 * The tempo part is not sourced for the img text
 * "hip hop and soul record." → "hip hop, and soul record."
 * "Its instrumentations notably incorporate sounds" → "Its instrumentation notably incorporates sounds" since the source does not mention separate songs
 * I don't think as well as is needed before guitar riffs when that is continuing this list; a comma should serve correctly alone
 * Most of the commandments and concept album sentence is unsourced
 * "with its title-track intro inspired by" → "with a titular intro, inspired by"
 * "Rowland, Luckett and Roberson" → "Rowland, Luckett, and Roberson"
 * The slinky quote is not sourced
 * "by Kevin "She'kspere" Briggs and Kandi Burruss" → "by Briggs and Burruss"
 * "Burruss claimed it was" → "Burruss revealed it was" per WP:CLAIM
 * Remove pipe on soul
 * Remove wikilink on Missy Elliot
 * The commandment parts are not sourced for many of the songs; either remove or add source(s) backing these up
 * Being in a relationship and the quote about not giving in are not sourced
 * "after being abandoned by another woman," → "after leaving another woman," per the source
 * The theme is not sourced
 * "a protagonist pleading her partner to stay after noticing his loss of interest towards her." → "the group members pleading their partners to stay after noticing a loss of interest towards them."
 * Remove pipe on Next
 * "to "leave [their] men" → "to "leav[e their] men" per paraphrasing of the source
 * "of Rodney Jerkins' prior production" → "of Jerkins' prior production"
 * "the group's original manager." → "Destiny Child's original member."

Title and packaging

 * "Kelly Rowland revealed: "When" → "Rowland revealed: "When"
 * Remove wikilink on Ten Commandments
 * "and the album's title written" → "and the title written"

Release and promotion

 * The performance being of "Bills, Bills, Bills" is not sourced
 * Pipe Soul Train Lady of Soul Awards to Soul Train Music Awards
 * Remove pipe on TLC
 * Remove wikilink on "Say My Name"
 * "the group performing the song" → "Destiny Child's performing the song"
 * The March 4 performance being of "Say My Name" is not sourced
 * Ditto for the TMF Awards
 * Remove wikilink on "Jumpin', Jumpin'" and the performance on July 21 being of the song is not sourced
 * Img looks good!
 * "On July 9," → "On July 9, 2000,"
 * ""Say My Name" and "Bills, Bills, Bills"" → ""Say My Name", and "Bills, Bills, Bills""
 * "single "Independent Women Part I" in November." → "single "Independent Women Part I" in November 2000."
 * "the group performed a medley" → "Destiny's Child performed a medley"
 * ""Say My Name" and "Jumpin', Jumpin'"." → ""Say My Name", and "Jumpin', Jumpin'"."
 * "from the album." → "from The Writing's on the Wall."

Singles

 * Remove wikilink on "Bills, Bills, Bills"
 * "by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)" → "by the RIAA" and mention for all of these instances it was in the US
 * Remove pipe on certification
 * "reached the top ten in" → "reached the top 10 in" per MOS:NUM
 * "the Netherlands and the United Kingdom." → "the Netherlands, and the UK."
 * "Its accompanying music video was" → "An accompanying music video was"
 * "tribute to Tina Knowles, Beyoncé's mother and the group's then-stylist," → "tribute to the group's then-stylist Tina Knowles," since we already know she is her mother
 * "as it peaked only at" → "peaking only at"
 * "within the top ten in" → "within the top 10 in"
 * "Its Grant-directed" → "The Grant-directed"
 * Remove wikilink on Wyclef Jean
 * Remove wikilink on "Say My Name" and add a source for the single release
 * "and the top ten in" → "and the top 10 in"
 * "Poland and the UK." → "Poland, and the UK."
 * Remove wikilink on Grammy Awards
 * Remove pipe on 43rd annual ceremony
 * "Its Joseph Kahn-directed" → "An Joseph Kahn-directed" but this is not sourced for the music video
 * "won the group their" → "won Destiny's Child their"
 * The release date and acclaim are not mentioned by the source
 * Pipe Mainstream Top 40 to Pop Airplay
 * "attained the top ten in" → "attained top 10 positions in"
 * "New Zealand and the UK." → "New Zealand, and the UK."
 * "Its accompanying music video was the group's second consecutive" → "Its music video was Destiny's Child's second consecutive one"
 * "to rhythmic contemporary radio in the United States" → "to rhythmic contemporary radio stations in the US" per MOS:US and add the wikilink
 * Most of the halted info is not sourced

Critical reception

 * "received generally favorable reviews" → "was met with generally favorable reviews"
 * "adding that "even when" → "adding "even when"
 * "the group for sounding mature but" → "Destiny's Child for sounding mature, but"
 * Wikilink Rob Sheffield
 * Use singular speech marks inside double ones
 * "yeah-yeah-yeah paying customer." → "yeah-yeah-yeah paying customer."" to end the quote properly
 * For thematic order, shouldn't the NME review be before the mixed and negative ones?
 * Remove wikilinks on "Say My Name" and "Jumpin', Jumpin'"
 * Wouldn't it be better to add what Corin Larkin wrote about the album since the four stars is already covered in the ratings box?
 * "praised the album for" → "praised The Writing's on the Wall for"

Accolades

 * Re-order this so the listings are first then awards

Awards and nominations

 * Three is too little for a table, so write these out in prose
 * Remove the links for the Soul Train awards
 * Pipe American Music Award to American Music Awards

Listings

 * Keep the table, but write out a summarization of how the album was ranked to year-end lists and mention some notable ones
 * Use scope col instead of centering apart from for refs, also lists and refs should be unsortable

Commercial performance

 * "In the United States," → "In the US," per MOS:US
 * Remove wikilink on Billboard 200
 * Remove wikilink on "Say My Name"
 * "reinvigorated the album's sales." → "reinvigorated the sales."
 * Remove wikilink on Billboard Hot 100
 * "the album registered a" → "The Writing's on the Wall registered a"
 * "and was the tenth" → "and was the 10th" per MOS:NUM
 * Remove pipe on octuple platinum
 * "by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)." → "by the RIAA." and mention this was in the US for how many copies
 * "the album has sold over" → "The Writing's on the Wall has sold over"
 * For all the certifications, mention what countries they were in and how many copies or other units for
 * "it debuted at number nine" → "The Writing's on the Wall debuted at number nine"
 * "the album debuted at" → "The Writing's on the Wall debuted at"
 * "It re-entered the chart in its third week and went on to peak at number six in its tenth" → "The album re-entered the chart after three weeks and went on to peak at number six in the 10th"
 * "the album debuted at" → "The Writing's on the Wall debuted at"
 * "peaked at number ten" → "peaked at number 10"
 * "to the top ten in" → "to the top 10 in"
 * "Norway and Portugal" → "Norway, and Portugal"
 * Remove pipe on fourth best-selling girl group album of all time

Controversy

 * Img looks good!
 * "LeToya Luckett and LaTavia Roberson attempted" → "Luckett and Roberson attempted"
 * Remove wikilink on Mathew Knowles
 * Avoid the term claimed per WP:CLAIM
 * "favored his daughter Beyoncé Knowles and Kelly Rowland." → "favored Beyoncé and Rowland." per all having been introduced previously
 * "to leave the group," → "to leave Destiny's Child,"
 * "the accompanying music video for" → "the music video for"
 * Remove wikilink on "Say My Name"
 * "They were replaced by Michelle Williams," → "They were replaced by Williams,"
 * Remove pipe on Monica
 * "and Farrah Franklin, an" → "and Franklin, an"
 * The stint part does not appear to be sourced
 * "On March 15," → with the year per this being a new para
 * "the action against Mathew Knowles." → "the action against Knowles." per him being the last person mentioned by the surname
 * "named Anjel but also" → "named Anjel, but also" even though the 581 Entertainment part is not sourced

Impact and legacy

 * Remove pipe on music critics
 * "towards the album, various critics would acknowledge its" → "towards The Writing's on the Wall, various critics would acknowledge an"
 * Remove pipe on R&B
 * Remove wikilink on pop music
 * "called it one of" → "called the album one of"
 * Remove wikilink on neo-soul
 * Img looks good!
 * "Within the period of its commercial peak," → "Within its peak popularity period,"
 * "departure of LeToya Luckett and LaTavia Roberson," → "departure of Luckett and Roberson,"
 * "against the group and their manager Mathew Knowles." → "against the group and Knowles."
 * "the group's success continued," → "Destiny's Child's success continued,"
 * Remove pipe on Survivor
 * Remove wikilink on Beyoncé
 * Remove wikilink on Stereogum
 * Remove wikilinks on "Say My Name" and "Bug a Boo"
 * Remove wikilink on The Guardian
 * Avoid the term claimed per WP:CLAIM
 * "Kandi Burruss–one of the" → "Burruss–one of the"
 * "Lizzo and Megan Thee Stallion." → "Lizzo, and Megan Thee Stallion."

Track listing

 * Pipe Beyoncé Knowles to Beyoncé
 * Pipe Kevin Briggs to Kevin Briggs (music producer)
 * Wikilink "Independent Women Part. 1" for consistency

Personnel

 * Pipe Kevin Briggs to Kevin Briggs (music producer)
 * Pipe Beyoncé Knowles to Beyoncé

Charts

 * Pipe Nielsen Soundscan to Luminate (company)

Certifications

 * Good

Release history

 * Good

Final comments and verdict

 * until all of the issues are fixed; that did not go one three days like it could have! --K. Peake 10:10, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I will fix the issues once I find enough time. Bronx Langford 18:17, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
 * ❌ now, per the user's request. --K. Peake 07:18, 30 April 2023 (UTC)