Talk:The war to end war

Merge (2016)
Should we merge this with World War I? Gary &#34;Roach&#34; Sanderson (talk) 03:50, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd say yes. Lizard  (talk) 00:11, 7 August 2016 (UTC)


 * If you want to discuss this, you should follow WP:MERGEPROP procedures, with the proper bannering on both articles, and a listing at WP:PM -- 65.94.171.217 (talk) 04:40, 5 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Oppose merge. This article is about the term "The war to end wars". It is for people curious about its origins and meaning. Having it as a couple of short paragraphs in the long WWI article would completely defeat the purpose. Scolaire (talk) 18:48, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

The war to end all wars
"The war to end all wars" is mentioned as a "sometimes known as" in the lede sentence, but appears nowhere else in the article (except the title of the first cite). However, that phrase results in roughly ten times as many google hits as "the war to end war". The latter search results, and the article, seem to be mostly about the book, while the former is the more common current usage (which is consistent with my experience). Should this be handled differently by making this a more traditional "book article", and a 'graph at World War I about the former phrase (which should then become the target of the redirect for that phrase)? —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 16:28, 7 December 2018 (UTC)


 * First of all, this article is not about "the book", it is about the phrase. Likewise, none, or hardly any, of the Google search results for "the war to end wars", are about the book; they are virtually all about the war. As to the phrase itself, "the war to end wars" is what was used by Woodrow Wilson, Lloyd George, Archibald Wavell, Walter Lippmann and Richard Nixon. When I created this article in 2010, I looked for the use of "the war to end all wars" by equally notable people, and failed. Any evidence of its preferred use would be a welcome addition to the article, but just saying "it gets more Google hits" is hardly encyclopaedic! Your other suggestions are puzzling: a "book article" would not address the issue of the two phrases, since the title of the book was not either of the two, but The War That Will End War, and merging this article into the World War I article would not address the issue of the two alternative phrases either – not to mention the fact that it is a B-class article on an obviously notable topic, and there is no justification for making it a tiny and awkwardly-placed paragraph lost in a 300 kilobyte article. I will try to find a way to reference "the war to end all wars" outside of the opening sentence, and I would encourage you to do the same. Scolaire (talk) 13:30, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I have at the end of the article. If you have any ideas for improving it, I will be glad to hear them. I have also changed "sometimes called" to "also called" in the first sentence.  Scolaire (talk) 15:04, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * As the slogan is older than August 1914 the article should also mention earlier use as phraze to prepare for a "great war". As an example, use of this and similar slogans within British and French masonic lodges could be explained. 178.10.66.107 (talk) 13:39, 4 September 2021 (UTC)