Talk:Theater in the United States/Archive 1

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Should this be "Theater in the United States"? (Compare Religion in the United States, cf Folklore of the United States, Cinema of the United States.) User:Quadell
 * I'm thinking it probably should be.. I'll make sure there's a redirect at any rate..    &mdash;User:Mulad (talk)

The Reader's Companion to American History
There's a ton of good info here, if anyone wants to incorporate it. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 22:13, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)

President Dwight of Yale College
This article quotes "President Dwight of Yale College" writing an essay in 1824. According to the Yale University page, there were two presidents called Dwight in the 19th century -- Timothy Dwight IV and Timothy Dwight V. But IV died in 1817, and V was born in 1828, so just who wrote this diatribe in 1824? rickK 66.60.159.190 17:32, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The Harvard Crimson gives the date as 1794. I'm not sure where the other date came from. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 23:08, July 25, 2005 (UTC)


 * That came, from me I'm afraid. My mistake. Thanks for the pickup. DJ Clayworth 19:24, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

PD images
There are a ton of great PD images of the history of U.S. theater here. – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 12:47, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

theater
b/c this is about theater/theatre in the US then why is it spelled as "theatre" instead of "theater"? I'm sure it honestly does not matter, but shouldnt that be the way it is? The Texas Drama King 07:27, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, and then some: while it is indicated in the article that "theatre" should be used under certain circumstances, it is clear from modern US dictionaries that "theater" is the preferred spelling in the US for all situations. Gruber76 15:09, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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Needs more info on drama
Is this article focused mostly on performance? Because I'm having trouble finding which article discusses the history of American dramatic literature? Aristophanes68 (talk) 00:25, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I see that Theatre of France does a good job of combining performance and literature in one article, so I think we should try to do the same here. I went ahead and set up a redirect for American Drama and its variant titles. Aristophanes68 (talk) 18:33, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Title of this article
Shouldn't this article be titled "Theatre in the United States"? In keeping with US tradition, the spelling theatre is used for the art and profession, of which this article is about, whilst the spelling theater is used for the actual structure that a performance is held in; ie, theatre is usually performed in a theater. Also this article is about theatre in the United States not of the United States. --121.220.51.162 (talk) 10:20, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 13 December 2017

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: moved to Theater in the United States. See clear consensus to 1) rename this article, and 2) use "in" rather than "of". There is also fairly strong support for "theater" instead of "theatre". Happy New Year to All! (closed by page mover)  Paine Ellsworth   put'r there 16:52, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Theater of the United States → Theatre in the United States – as stated above by 121.220.51.162 in 2014 – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:46, 13 December 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Crow  Caw  22:35, 20 December 2017 (UTC)  --Relisting.  Steel1943  (talk) 20:55, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Support - Per the precedent of theatre article title. Also, "theater of the United States" makes me think "theater of war" rather than the performing arts.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:28, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Move back to original title Theater in the United States. Should never have been moved. Per WP:ENGVAR, "theater" is the usual American spelling. Station1 (talk) 02:46, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Only support Theater in the United States per WP:ENGVAR Red Slash 09:35, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:CONSISTENCY with other articles, however, move to theater as that is the American spelling.  CookieMonster755   𝚨-𝛀    04:04, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * American English spelling is 'Theater' Randy Kryn (talk) 00:35, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Support: Plenty of Americans use "theatre". I was taught to use it when I was a theatre graduate-student in the US. But if we need a good outside arbiter, let's look at which spelling the NYC theatre critics. Aristophanes68 (talk) 08:27, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Plus, the articles on Broadway, Off-Broadway, and Off-Off-Broadway use -re. Aristophanes68 (talk) 08:36, 21 December 2017 (UTC)


 * American English spelling is 'Theater' - no reason to change original title. "Theater" is used by The New York Times and others. Neutralitytalk 08:52, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose both changes.
 * Keep "of" to maintain consistency with Theatre of ancient Greece and Theatre of the United Kingdom. The proposal misreads the nuance of this topic, which I find hard to explain at the moment.
 * Keep "theater". This is a WP:ENGVAR issue, in the absence of compelling reason to change, stick with WP:RETAIN, noting "theater" was the title in the first non-stub version.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:07, 2 January 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Appalling lead
"Theater of the United States is based in the Western tradition. Regional or resident theaters in the United States are professional theater companies outside New York City that produce their own seasons."

Really? Tony</b> (talk)  06:17, 21 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I rewrote it; how does it read now? Any suggestions for what else to add? <b style="color: magenta;">Aristophanes</b><b style="color: teal;">68</b> <i style="color: teal;">(talk)</i> 08:24, 21 December 2017 (UTC)