Talk:Their Satanic Majesties Request

The Beatles' miscellanea
Check The Beatles' miscellanea to see if there is anything in it you can use. A lot of 'miscellanea' needs to be trimmed (as linked articles are improved) so please feel free to use anything before certain sections get zapped into the ether... ThE bEaTLeS aka andreasegde 16:30, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

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what about John Paul Jones
"...playing keyboards or bass guitar for artists including the Rolling Stones on Their Satanic Majesties Request (it's Jones' string arrangement which is heard on "She's A Rainbow")." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_Jones_%28musician%29

Amongst Stones fans too young to have bought "Their Satanic Majesties Request" upon release, the album has a much better reputation. Keith Richards hates the album to this day; however, it was Bill Wyman's favorite, and Mick Jagger seems to have joined in the general reappraisal of the album.


 * That shouldn't be a criterion. This is a history article, not a music review article anyway. Jagger was the Beatles' 'gofer' - they let him into their recording sessions, he went out for fish 'n' chips for them etc, and in turn he got to steal all their ideas. And they didn't care. Everything Jagger did was a rip-off - not some artistic achievement. Jagger saying he's 'reappraised' the record is simply an attempt to get sales going again; citing this as of some importance to this HISTORIC article is meaningless.

Could somebody please give details of when the original release was (uk and usa). If the original recording was in Mono or Stereo and subsequent reissues. Also, we would like to know how to identify these different releases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Otis66Driftwood (talk • contribs) 15:09, 20 November 2007 UTC


 * To answer some of your questions: John Paul Jones is already mentioned in the track listing. The album was originally released on 8 December 1967 (UK) and 9 December 1967 (US) and was mono – subsequent releases were stereo. Regarding identifying the different releases, this site may help you. --Bruce1ee 08:40, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Gomper
Gomper is very similar to Velvet Underground's Lady's Godiva Operation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.188.216.155 (talk) 22:55, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

The Beatles, you say?
According to this article, some or all of the Beatles performed backing vocals on She's a Rainbow... but on that song's article, it says that this is just a rumor. Which is it?--Teiladnam (talk) 15:16, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * They never performed on any of their albums. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.5.5.74 (talk) 05:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you listen closely to Sing This All Together there is one spot in particular where Lennon's very distinctive voice can be heard clearly coming out of the mix a bit when they sing the chorus. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 16:34, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Source that the 3d art was destroyed??
How is that the case if numerous CD reissues have restored the original 3d hologram, since the 80s? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.138.191.47 (talk) 03:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Answer: The numerous CD reissues with a lenticular cover have used the original 2-D-photograpgh, and have it artificialy converted into a semi-3-D-lenticular image. Different portions of the 2-D-photograph have been cut and put onto different layers. Say, the background with the mountains and the citadel, is a 2-D-plain, on a lyer in the background. The Stones are on a different layer, in mid-ground. Some parts in the foreground are on layer right in the foreground. In a similar way, the lenticular cover for the 2017 super deluxe anniversary set was re-created in a similar way. It's not really 3-D, but just different portions of the photograph(s) on different levels. The original 3-D-lenticular cover on the contrary, really is 3 dimensional and is much clearer and sharper than the re-creations. You need to see these covers in reality to tell the difference. Images of the various covers on discogs.com cannot reveil the differences. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.0.82.56 (talk) 15:07, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Brian Jones - No guitars?
I've just read the personnel section - is it true that Brian Jones played no guitar on this album at all? I find that extraordinary given that it was his main instrument. Or was this part of his gradual withdrawal from the group? Best Witchwooder (talk) 09:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There's a conflict: The musician credits for the song "She's A Rainbow" list Brian Jones on guitar, yet the musician credits for the album as a whole do not list him as playing guitar.  Only one can be correct.  How do we reconcile?Cbben (talk) 15:13, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised as well but it could be. And I think you nailed it, this was when he was really withdrawing from the group. You can really see it in the very weird movie Sympathy for the Devil (aka one plus one) by Godard. Half the film is just a recording of the Stones in the studio working on the iconic song. It's really very cool if you are a musician watching how that song evolves from a funeral dirge to the masterpiece it turned into and one of the things you see is Brian is always off literally walled off in a corner of acoustic walls barely participating or being noticed by the rest of the group. Sigh, makes me sad just thinking about it, such an amazing and creative guy. It's one of the reasons I actually like this album so much... even if Brian didn't play guitar between the sitar, sax, xylophone, and countless other instruments he added an incredible creative dimension to the band and I think it really shows on this album. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 16:40, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

George Starostin - Vandalism?
Why has the link to George Starostin's review page been classified as vandalism? If no-one objects, I am going to reinstate it. Best Witchwooder (talk) 08:48, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The consensus has not changed since this discussion in 2009. Your contributions Those edits, BTW, should not have been labelled vandalism.  R ad io pa th y  •talk•  00:40, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks R ad io pa th y , I've learned something new today. I have a suspicion that I've used George elsewhere. I'll find them and remove them. Best Witchwooder (talk) 08:23, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

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