Talk:There is a pain — so utter —

I'm not sure the title needs the second dash; based on Google search results, it doesn't seem like that's correct. I'm not subject matter expert here, so I thought I'd just mention it without making the change. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 12:44, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've seen it both with and without the second dash included in the title. To confuse things even more, though, the dashes are em-dashes, so probably shouldn't have spaces around them.  --Deskford (talk) 12:58, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I brought this up at the Poetry Wikiproject, hopefully more people can weigh in. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 13:00, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

I would probably limit the title to "There is pain". Limiting titles can be done, when for example, the titles are very long. Maybe keep a redirect with this title and shorten the main title. My two cents... Span (talk) 23:43, 11 October 2010 (UTC)