Talk:Thierry IV

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Why is he numbered the fourth if his parentage is unknown? Srnec (talk) 02:40, 13 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Likely because someone (maybe Maurice Chaume) did a cataloguing of people of prominence named Theoderic/Thierry in the early Carolingian realm, and he was chronologically the 4th. That being said, in my experience, most English-language sources don't use the numbering, nor, for that matter, do they use the modern French Thierry, generally preferring the full original Germanic name. I would favor a move, though he is so poorly known there is little on which to base a disambiguation (maybe Theoderic (missus)). Agricolae (talk) 11:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Works for me. I definitely think the numeral should go unless we can explain it and probably even then if the explanation is what you say. Srnec (talk) 01:22, 15 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I see in other pages referring to him he is called COunt of Autun, but I didn't see this in that part of Bouchard I Google would let me see. Were that the case, Theoderic, Count of Autun would be an appropriate target, but I wouldn't want to do that if it is just one of those false-titles that tend to arise through sloppy scholarship. Agricolae (talk) 10:45, 15 November 2020 (UTC)