Talk:Things Fall Apart/Archive 2

No Plot Summary?
It needs to have some sort of plot summary. Also, I don't think the characters section needs expansion. Wolfehhgg (talk) 21:44, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


 * There was always a plot summary. The reason there wasn't when you checked the article is because the article was vandalised repeatedly. I must have put the plot summary back a number of times and it keeps being deleted periodically with noone noticing for a few months. I don't know how that happens. From what I can tell, the plot summary was just deleted on 12:17, November 6, 2009 by 169.226.18.58 and no one noticed. --RossF18 (talk) 15:47, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Film, television, and theatrical adaptations
Should this section not also include references to the book in popular culture? The most obvious one I can think of is The Roots' album Things Fall Apart but I am sure there must be more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.241.136.139 (talk) 13:23, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree and have now done this Mahrooq (talk) 14:08, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Although I actually created a new section for references in popular culture Mahrooq (talk) 14:09, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Mr. Brown
the character analysis for mr. brown has been tampered with. perhaps someone who knows more about this can fix it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.8.79.154 (talk) 23:04, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Cliff notes! Wtf?!
Why is Cliff Notes used as a source! --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 19:14, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Article quality/trimming and consolidating themes
I don't get the impression that this article is well-watched, especially given the long-term deletion and replacement of content by IPs and named accounts that have only contributed to this article (see 2008 history; a bunch of one-article users added content, perhaps a class project?). In some cases IP section blanking was never reverted, if indeed it should have been. As a result there have been, for example, 3 or 4 versions of the "Characters" section.

Anyway, the main sections of this article are all over the map. My plan is to trim critical material that is somewhat tangential to the topic, and consolidate all analysis under Themes. (Another concern is that key phrases in the numbered items in "Themes" consistently bring up the same Google Books results, including a study guide, as if someone had copied verbatim. But I can't view those books online, so have to assume good faith, especially as it's not clear to me that GBooks is "confirming" exact quote passages that I search for.) Clearly this article deserves better, but my plans are limited to rationalizing all the diverse main headings that relate to theme and lit crit. (E.g. There are three main sections called "Literary significance and reception", "Critical reception/value", and "Popularity/influence"; I expect they're quite redundant.) So... if anyone happens to be invested in certain sections, fair warning, and other thoughts on improvement are welcome. (I know some people would call most of it "OR" and blank half the article. Not really my thing.) Riggr Mortis (talk) 22:15, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Spoilers
I was just reading about the book and at some point it says the protagonist commits suicide. No warning, no spoiler tags no nothing. Thanks a lot!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.47.73.146 (talk) 18:38, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

According to Spoiler, spoiler warnings should not be used on Wikipedia. If you are reading a section about the plot or characters, for instance, it is expected that there will likely be spoilers in those sections. -- Benjwgarner (talk) 08:33, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Copied
It seems like a blog (https://www.bookofdaystales.com/chinua-achebe/) has very similar wording to this article in both the plot description and the literary significance section. There are some parts that are word for word the same. Not sure If the blog post is copied off here or the other way around though Sarah51702 (talk) 03:18, 18 October 2020 (UTC)Sarah51702

Ikemefuna
Was Ikemefuna really 'unintentially' killed as in the novel it says that Okonkwo killed Ikemefuna because 'he was afraid of being thought weak'. I'm guessing you meant that he was killed by Okonkwo who didn't want to kill him but felt it necessary. I think this should be changed as it sounds like it was an accident to kill the boy similar to the killing of Ezeudu's son. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.71.218.95 (talk) 18:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I believe it is correctly worded considering the culture and perspective of the local people during that era. Saying it differently would take away the ancient and uncolonised mind of a man in Okwonko’s situation. Juliet Matorerwa (talk) 13:11, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Badly written
Am I the only one who thinks that this article is badly written? I mean, there are grammar mistakes, and the summary, and character lists are very brief. For a book so widely studied in schools, the article should be much better. For example, I could probably just paste in stuff that my English class did about this book to make the article better! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.240.254.210 (talk) 03:50, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree that this is poorly written. This sentence is incoherent: "The people are ruled not by a king or chief but by a kind of democracy, where the males meet and make decisions by consensus accordance to an "Oracle" that should be written down, considering this is during Victorian times."Wendall P. Smith (talk) 01:06, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree as well. This article says that Okonkwo and his three wives have nine children when the book clearly states that he has eight children. Also, Okonkwo beat his wife for going out to get her hair braided during the week of peace, not for talking back, but that could have been something I read on another page about Things Fall Apart...... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.153.178 (talk) 19:59, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree, it doesn’t reflect the “Things Fall Apart” we studied and dissected word for word during those Literature critique sessions. Juliet Matorerwa (talk) 13:16, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

2008 Nigerian Film Adaptation
I noticed there is no citation for the 2008 film adaption produced by a Nigerian company. After searching, all I can find is an adaptation on YouTube that may not even be the film in question. As such, the reference to this film should probably be removed if no source can be provided. --12.231.230.82 (talk) 18:54, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I have removed the reference to a 2008 adaptation. Like you, I couldn't find any references to one, and the statement that Pete Edochie was in it was clearly factually incorrect, as he was in the 1986 TV adaptation. The two things together mean removing this shouldn't be controversial. H. Carver (talk) 13:32, 22 February 2022 (UTC)