Talk:Thinkspot

Jordan Peterson claims he’s building an alternative to Patreon (updated)
- hopeful Christmas launch date

- in video announcement, discussed banning of Sargon of Akkad

- described the banning as an example demonstrating the need for a Patreon alternative

- Sam Harris announced the closing of his account on the same day

- Peterson used Harris' comment to promote his site

- Peterson first announced intention to leave Patreon in a post on 14 December 2018

Jlevi (talk) 03:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Jordan Peterson is releasing a ‘free speech’ alternative to Patreon called Thinkspot 13 July 2019
- Peterson said Thinkspot would be a "free speech platform"

- he said his principles of anti-censorship would mean that users would only be removed or content blocked if required by a court

- minimum word count (not maximum)

- marketed as creator-to-consumer payment processor

- compared to Gab

- release date of August 2019

Jlevi (talk) 03:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

https://observer.com/2018/12/jordan-peterson-dave-rubin-new-media-platform/

Jordan Peterson’s Online Platform Will Shadowban Unpopular Opinions 12 June 2019
- describes itself as: "a collaborative community where individuals can explore and exchange ideas in a thoughtful and respectful manner. The platform is an intellectual playground for censorship-free discourse."

- described his platform on the Joe Rogan podcast

- wanted minimum word count to be used to deter trolls

- downvoted comments would be hidden

- Vice mislabelled 'shadowbanning' in an old article

- Peterson's site would use similar moderation as other sites through this comment hiding

Jlevi (talk) 03:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

https://tech.co/news/jordan-peterson-free-speech-social-media-2019-06

Thinkspot and the Rise of Long Tail Social Media 15 July 2019
- TS may represent a new phase in online networks

- rather than massive audiences of FB or Twitter, Thinkspot shows how users are "increasingly shifting toward a long tail model for the social internet" in which people gravitate not towards the largest platforms, but rather towards those most customized for their interests

Jlevi (talk) 19:53, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

=== https://forward.com/news/national/428250/white-supremacist-jordan-peterson-parler-laura-loomer/ 24 July 2019 ===

- won't remove users except if forced by courts

- compared to Parler, a litertarian social media site, and Gab

- Jared Holt, an reporter for Right Wing Watch, warns that most people who use 'free speech' platforms are those who have been kicked off of mainstream platforms

- a variety of white nationalists were interested in using Thinkspot, including Andrew Anglin, Peter Brimelow, Kevin MacDonald, and Jared Taylor. Laura Loomer was also interested

- The site began with a beta-test (not as of article publishing).

- Contributor beta-testers were Dave Rubin, James Altucher, Jocko Willink, Michael Shermer and Carl Benjamin, the British conspiracy theorist known as Sargon of Akkad

- user beta-testers were allowed in limited numbers, with a waiting list

- as of article publication, Peterson got money through bitcoin donations on his website

Jlevi (talk) 03:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Jordan Peterson, Sir, Mr. Surrogate Dad Sir: Please Return My Ten Dollars
- Peterson and Dave Rubin left Patreon following the banning of Sargon of Akkad

- the beta "appears to only have a few thousand users"

- Thinkspot brands itself as an "anti-censorship" platform, and says that the "great democratic project is ensconced foremost in ideas and the uninhibited articulation of thought."

- unlike Facebook, Thinkspot policies do not ban hate speech. They do ban other things, such as spam, impersonation, terrorism, etc.

- Thinkspot has multiple plans. A lower plan allows access to the platform, while a higher plan allows content creation

- contributors at the time included Bjørn Lomborg, Michael Shermer, David Pakman, Stephen Hicks, Bettina Arndt, and DJ Akira the Don.

- many possible methods of interaction exist, including a 'discourse button,' the option to leave references in a manner similar to Genius, and comments

- there are contributor feeds, paywalled content, as well as forums

- you can react with emojis

- this was not a particularly positive review

Jlevi (talk) 02:52, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

https://screenshot-magazine.com/technology/thinkspot-jordan-peterson-platform/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp9ZJiFFBnU

Top Patreon creators...
- Jordan Peterson and Dave Rubin announced on Dec. 16, 2018 that they would start an alternative to Patron

- they announced this after several large right-wing users of Patreon were removed

- they announced this in a Youtube video on Monday afternoon

- they announced an intended release date "hopefully before Christmas"

- in the previous week, Milo Yiannopoulos was banned from Patreon due to association with the Proud Boys

- Carl Benjamin, also known as Sargon of Akkad, had been banned due to what Patreon described as "racial and homophobic slurs to degrade another individual"

- following the event, Peterson and Sam Harris both expressed displeasure about what they call 'arbitrary censorship' and the platform's 'political bias'

- Harris did not intend to join Peterson's platform at the time

- Peterson and Rubin said they lost followers after protesting Benjamin's removal

- Gab was a similar website in terms of censorship free branding

- BUT Gab was described as "extremist-friendly" by the NYT

- 4chan is also compared

Jlevi (talk) 02:52, 17 April 2020 (UTC)


 * TL;DR any websites you aren't told to use and aren't corporate approved (by facebook, google, apple, twitter) is bad. free speech is a terrible thing and as long as the government isn't the one controlling your speech it's a-ok. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanana0 (talk • contribs) 13:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Some thinktank/POV sources:
 * Jordan Peterson’s Thinkspot Is a Welcome Social Media Option. Will It Work? (Foundation for Economic Education, July 2019)
 * ‘Thinkspot’ Might Be Jordan Peterson’s Best Grift Yet (RightWingWatch, November 2019) Nah, not much new content, and not the best source. Edit: 22:28, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Jlevi (talk) 12:15, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

The Reception Section is Biased
How about more balance in the Reception section? The large first paragraph is entirely left-leaning railing of the website. 2604:3D08:497C:CC00:2D07:2062:45A7:8754 (talk) 07:09, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Please present the reliable sources that are not included in the section, or add them yourself. — Bilorv ( talk ) 08:29, 5 September 2021 (UTC)