Talk:Thinzar Shunlei Yi

Some initial thoughts on a possible FAC nomination
G'day, here are some initial thoughts. I'll work through them thematically:

Firstly, you need to closely examine WP:RS and ensure that all the sources meet the requirements of being a reliable source, although I should say that the majority of the sources are clearly reliable. I have questions about the use of YouTube videos (see WP:RSPYT), and Twitter/X (see WP:USERGENERATED). I freely admit not being familiar with what passes for a reliable news outlet in Myanmar, but you need to think about what makes Myanmar Mix (and some others like New Naratif) a reliable source (in terms of each piece of work itself (the content), the creator of the content (the writer, journalist) and the publisher of the website. I would also say that at FAC, her autobiography will be expected to have been referred to to check basic personal details and perhaps some other material (although it must be used very carefully because it is not independent of the subject). And if it had been reputably reviewed, some idea of what has been said about it by people who should know. I would also say that in general there appears to be quite a bit of detail in sources that is not used in the article, and sometimes this can lead to lack of clarity or an incorrect impression. For example, when I read "was doxed on pornographic sites" I wrongly assumed an intimate video of her was released, but when reading the article I found that her telephone number had been published. There are plenty of other important details to be mined from the existing sources. Feel free to challenge anything I have said above, or ask any questions at all. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:52, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Sources

They all seem to be US Govt images, so no issues here. The captions are all appropriate and properly formatted. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:26, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Images

This is currently really only expressed in a quote box and not in the body per se beyond a short sentence. Especially given she was initially inspired by her, this needs some explanation about why, when and how her views changed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:27, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Views on Aung San Suu Kyi

This contains quite a bit of useful material on her views. I recommend using it as a source, it should be reliable for her opinions and statements but not facts. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:34, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Extreme Lives interview

In general terms, with biographies it is best to take a strictly chronological approach. There are some sentences that appear out of place. For example, the information about Mizzima TVs licence is from 2021, but is followed by events of 2015. Her refusal to disclose her whereabouts in January 2022 is also out of chronological order. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Chronological approach

There are some additional fields that could be used here. Have a look at Template:Infobox person for more. I would split education by putting her uni against | alma_mater =, and leave her Bachelor of Education (in full) against education. I would use teacher, author and television host for |occupation=, then just have the activism in the |known for= field. Also a start year for | years_active = and use |awards= as well. But go right through and add any fields that are relevant. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Infobox

That's probably a good start. I would mention that FAs on (relatively) young people can quickly become out of date, but that shouldn't put you off. I would say that unless you maintain it, it could quickly lose FA status for that reason if successful. I've watchlisted this page, and will monitor responses. Once the above points have been addressed, I'll have a close look at the prose and structure and make some recommendations. Regards, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:07, 26 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your comments. I will be editing the article over the next while to incorporate these changes.  Bremps  ...  14:18, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello Peacemaker67,
 * In her ExtremeLives interview, she stated that she was a Buddhist, and I'm not sure where to put that. I would appreciate your opinion.
 * I understand your concerns Twitter and YouTube, but the Twitter account belongs to Thinzar Shunlei Yi herself and the YouTube videos are interviews with her. I think they are acceptable per WP:SELFSOURCE. The same goes for New Naratif and Myanmar Mix; she has been interviewed in the process of writing a profile about her.
 * I'm still working on getting a copy of her autobiography. Other than that, I've implemented all of your helpful suggestions.
 * Thanks,  Bremps  ...  17:07, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * D'oh, my bad, forgot to ping. @Peacemaker67  Bremps  ...  15:36, 30 November 2023 (UTC)