Talk:Third Estate

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The First Estate was the clergy and the Second Estate was the aristocracy, not vice versa. Also, the "Fourth Estate" refers to the newspapers (or, in more recent usage, the media), not the peasantry. The Third Estate included both the bourgeoisie and the peasantry.
 * Why is the Canadian news program called the Fifth Estate? Rmhermen 06:15, Dec 17, 2003 (UTC)
 * Broadcast media (vs. print media) I would guess. See Fourth Estate -- Jmabel 07:05, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Recent addition: cut
The following was recently and anonymously added; I've brought it over to this page for discussion (I've also corrected the spelling, wikification, etc. slightly.)


 * Beyond the history, the term has been used by many people in an attempt to define the forces acting upon society. The Third Estate has generally distilled into either the "bourgeoisie" or the "commoner".  The Third Estate is then compared against other groups likely to have impact such as the Fourth Estate, commonly known as the Press, and the Fifth Estate, commonly known as an Anarchist magazine or Artists.

I just don't find this very coherent. There may be an idea that belongs in the article, but this is not clear enough to express it. I cannot work out what the "&hellip:distilled&hellip:" sentence means to say. And the last sentence is coherent, but doesn't seem true to me, and the remark about "an Anarchist magazine or artists" just seems frivolous. -- Jmabel | Talk 23:27, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

Merge?
Rather than scatter merge discussion over the place, let's centralize it at Talk:Estates of the realm -- Jmabel | Talk 08:45, 4 January 2006 (UTC)