Talk:Thirtieth Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland

Thirtieth?
We don't know whether it will be 30th or 31st, and nobody is using either name yet. WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CRYSTAL are against the title, so I've moved it. jnestorius(talk) 15:36, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I think it more than likely to be the 30th but I agree that it is crystal balling. In reality the name "Irish European Fiscal Compact referendum" provides a better template for this article which is more about the referendum than the bill. The same goes for previous referendums. — Blue-Haired Lawyer t 15:59, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * We have separate articles for referendum and amendment if and only if multiple referendums are held on the same day. I think that is stupid, but others have claimed it is somehow useful. Presumably this article should be in Amendments of the Constitution of Ireland as well as Irish elections. jnestorius(talk) 11:26, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Could you respect the outcome of the discussion? or does your opinion somehow take precedence over others? Snappy (talk) 16:27, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Depends what you mean by "respect" and no, respectively. jnestorius(talk) 19:08, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * If you don't know what the word respect means, then look it up on Wiktionary. I don't agree with the current name of this article, but there is a consensus for it, so I don't continue to bitch and moan about it, or call it "stupid". Snappy (talk) 21:28, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I was thinking more on the lines of moving:
 * 'Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, 2008 (Ireland)' to 'First Irish Lisbon referendum',
 * 'Twenty-fourth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, 2001 (Ireland)' to 'First Irish Nice referendum', and
 * 'Tenth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, 1986 (Ireland)' to 'First Irish divorce referendum'
 * — Blue-Haired Lawyer t 12:03, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I see. You may be right about those particular ones. I don't think it generalises to other failed referenda, but of course there is no requirement that all articles in a Category have names in the same format. As time goes by, the general public forgets about the topic, while the specialists who remember are more likely to use the formal/official name rather than an adhoc description. Some of the successful amendments might be moved on the same basis ("Irish Nice II referendum"?) but I have no strong opinions. jnestorius(talk) 18:07, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

An extension to this discussion is now taking place over at Talk:Irish constitutional referendum, November 2012. — Blue-Haired Lawyer t 09:35, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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