Talk:Thirty Minutes over Tokyo/Archive 1

Untitled
anyone know the spelling for Doh in Japanease? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.173.227 (talk • contribs)

According to the D'oh! article, d'oh was romanized as "shimatta baka ni" Cowmeister88 05:54, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the title is a reference to the movie Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo, about the Dolittle raid during WWII. I assume the song took its title from the movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.84.7 (talk • contribs)

Why does "Battling Seizure Robots" link to Banned episodes of Pokémon? --Timestopper 00:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Because Battling Seziure Robots is a spoof of the episode of Pokémon that cause seizures and is now banned. By the way, the translation of "shimatta baka ni" is incorrect. "Baka ni" in this case doesn't mean "stupid two," but is (probably) short for something like "baka ni shimashita," which would literally translate to "I did it (it was done) stupidly." Robaato 16:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Bart's magic fish
I had always assumed that this was a reference to the Grimm Brothers fable "The Fisherman and His Wife". --70.24.207.57 19:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Pokemon Redux
I added the information about the Japan TV News rebroadcasts because a) I think it's a stunning display of the kind of bureaucratic ham-handedness that The Simpsons is best-known for skewering, and b) because I think it's an interesting bit of comedic oversight that the writers didn't reference this fact in the show. However, I'm still green enough at Wiki to not know how to properly add a reference/footnote. I would be deeply grateful if someone could add a link to http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/news/pokemon.htm, a reproduction of a Washington Post article (which also quotes a Japanese paper regarding the rebroadcast) that I retrieved on 4-Jun-2007. TIA! -- lowgenius  --   My Talk Page 04:59, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Banned in Japan
The article says the episode is banned in Japan, but doesn't go on to say the reason. Just because it takes place there isn't a good explanation. Why did the Japanese Government decide to ban it? Planecrazy22 (talk) 02:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Although a Japanese dub of The Simpsons has been produced for many years, this episode has never aired in Japan. This episode didn’t air in Japan because of the scene when Homer throws the Emperor of Japan into a pile of mawashi ("sumo thongs"). Sanrio also objected to the depiction of a Hello Kitty factory in this episode.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:04, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes. But was it "banned" by the government specifically, or just never aired because it took place in Japan and used their images?  There is a big difference there. Planecrazy22 (talk) 05:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I dunno if it was actually banned legally, but the wording at least makes it clear that certain important Japanese icons were used offensively, which was objected to.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 06:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If it wasnt Banned, then maybe the wording should be changed to "wasn't shown" or something similar to that. Banned gives the impression that it was something legal. Banned redirects to Ban (law) too on Wikipedia. Planecrazy22 (talk) 06:21, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't know where you got "banned" from. The article simply states that the episode "has never aired in Japan." I wish I knew what the reasons were. Is there any source on the posted allegations (an assault on the emperor and Sanrio)? --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 13:06, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It is not collected to DVDBOX of a Japanese version though it is this episode. Moreover, there seems to be no official statement now why of Fox Japan did not broadcast this episode.

About this episode not being recorded on this DVD set, that is written to an Amazon's customer review.--Kuwopio (talk) 21:47, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * ザ・シンプソンズ　シーズン10　DVDコレクターズBOX -from Fox Japan website.
 * ザ・シンプソンズ シーズン10 DVDコレクターズBOX-from amazon Japan website.

Another Reference
During the commercial while the family is watching the seizure show, we see a still of a man interviewing a cow. This is from the video Homer watches about Mr. Sparkle, the Japanese dish soap, in a previous episode Tomtheebomb (talk) 07:21, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

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Requested move 7 July 2019

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Steel1943  (talk) 05:19, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Thirty Minutes over Tokyo → Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo – per MOS:TITLECAPS. – Matthew  - (talk) 21:51, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:27, 7 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I thought that the rule was to capitalize a preposition if it has 5 or more letters. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:27, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose: MOS:TITLECAPS states that prepositions containing four letters or fewer are not capitalized, and even mentions "over" as an example. Darkday (talk) 22:42, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * When I've looked at Google Search for this title of the episode, a good percentage of the results on the first few pages have all the words capitalised. I have also found a similar but unrelated title of the war film Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo which has every first letter capitalised. Iggy (Swan) 05:24, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The first part of your statement clearly opposes the move, but that last bit about you finding that the "O" is capitalized in the majority of search results almost seems to be in support of the move. Are you still voting to oppose the move? – Matthew  - (talk) 22:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I think you've conflated my comment with that of Iggy. I'm still opposing the move. Darkday (talk)
 * Support: While MOS:TITLECAPS does state that prepositions of four letters or fewer should not be capitalized, it also specifies exceptions for instances in which the prepositions are "found capitalized in almost all independent sources". The topic of this article in one such case. The majority of sources which mention or discuss the episode, including BBC, IMDb, and various Simpsons-related websites, the "O" in "Over" is capitalized. The official DVD box set for the 10th season of The Simpsons also capitalizes the "O". Furthermore, the title of the episode is a play on the title of the film Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo. The majority of online results for Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo, from IMDb, Rotten Tomatoes, and Amazon.com to Forbes, Variety, and The New York Times, capitalize the "O". – Matthew  - (talk) 22:10, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The footnote from MOS:TITLECAPS which you quoted in part has some more information which you omitted: It speaks of "cases that present unique facts", and mentions the example "Star Trek Into Darkness", where "it was determined that the title is a play on words". That is not the case for "over" in "Thirty Seconds over Tokyo". Furthermore, IMDb, Simpsons websites and the Simpsons DVD box are not independent, reliable sources, unlike these: 1, 2. Darkday (talk) 18:11, 9 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose per MOS:TITLECAPS. Citing this as rationale make the whole proposal ludicrous, doesn't it? Dicklyon (talk) 05:01, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose per MOS:TITLECAPS, MOS:CAPS: (Emphasis in original.) The relevant hurdle is not "a majority" but "a substantial majority". I’m seeing a relatively even split when excluding user-generated content sites. And if we are comparing it to Thirty Seconds over Tokyo, I would call it relatively even as well, judging by the Google Ngram comparison.   C Thomas3   (talk) 05:35, 10 July 2019 (UTC)


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Couch and Board Gag
Just watched a reairing of this episode. The couch and board gag for this aren't right. The board and couch gag listed for the next episode, Beyond Blunderdome, are the ones that happened in this one. Fjf1085 (talk) 17:52, 22 December 2019 (UTC)