Talk:This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race

Can someone please find a better photo? I tried looking but I didn't find any. Kay44 22:14, 8 December 2006 (UTC)Kaitlyn


 * I added a better quailty picture Guylikeu 19:29, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Check out the latest Journal entry on www.falloutboyrock.com, "we get a lot of questions in the q&a about if the guitar solo on the coffin was supposed to be about avenged sevenfold- not in the slightest" (125.236.140.188 07:33, 23 December 2006 (UTC))

How can Pete have a frustration about the emo scene if he is apart of it?

Censorship
About the word "God" being removed from the radio versions of the song. I found that 106.7 KROQ still plays the song with the word "God" in . I was wondering if someone could tell me why they do but other radio stations apparently cannot. Thanks. Another word that radio blocks out would be "Damm"

Most Wanted Emo 23:37, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm writing this in Australia, and the song hasn't received much airplay over here yet, but as far as I can tell the reasoning is something like this - radio stations which play mainly Top 40 / Pop / Adult Contemporary content are targeted more towards a mainstream audience, so pretty much anything that could possibly be considered offensive is removed to avoid offending listeners. (The phrase "God-damn door" was also censored in I Write Sins Not Tragedies, for example). These edits are not legally required, but are an example of self-censorship by the radio station.  Other stations, targeted at a modern-rock / punk / alternative style audience, are still legally bound to prevent sexually explicit, violent or discriminatory language from going to air, but are more liberal in allowing certain controversial phrases (such as references to "God") to go to air.  They are targeting a different audience, so there is less likelihood that listeners will be offended by reference to a "God-damned arms race."--Phil500 (Talk / Contribs) 04:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm also from Australia, and it's odd really. In this song, even on the YouTube vid's (eg: ) it's censored. I've only ever heard it once with god-damn-arms-race that was right back in the beginning. For example, last night, Fox (a very popular radio station) played both of those songs (I Write Sins Not Tragedies and This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race). The former was not censored "god damn door", yet the latter was "it's a [..] damn arms race". Odd? &mdash; D e on555talkdesksign here! 03:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Regarding Australia, radio station Triple M seems to be inconsistent in playing the edited and the un-edited version. I have heard the song twice in one day on this station and have heard the two versions. How odd? --Mikecraig 03:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

there are no versons of the vid with the word god.... kind of like teenagers by mychemicalromance with no versons of the vid with the word shit....and i've only ever heard it on the radio un-edited [but i only listen to the radio on the weekends and late at night]24.113.251.213 03:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)andyday

It sounds more like "golf dare arse face" to me, so why is "golf" censored and "arse" not? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 17:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

EXPLICIT on iTunes?

 * Is the song download labeled "Explicit" on iTunes? JustN5:12 03:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Regarding Australia, radio station Triple M seems to be inconsistent in playing the edited and the un-edited version. I have heard the song twice in one day on this station and have heard the two versions.  How odd? --Mikecraig 03:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but I'm American (no offense). It's as easy as anyone who has been on iTunes often ANYWHERE to answer this question (I don't have my OWN account on iTunes): is there an orange "EXPLICIT" box next to the song download? I made a new section of this question to avoid confusion with what you thought was the discussion. JustN5:12 03:06, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * At what hour was the explicit version played, and at what hour was the "clean" version played? See Watershed (television). --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 17:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

A correction and a suggestion.
Please notice the word in bold in the following excerpt from the article: '" This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race" is the first single from emo/pop punk band Fall Out Boy's album Infinity on High. ' Now, notice this excerpt from the article: ' The song is reportedly about lyricist/bassist Peter Wentz's frustration with the ever growing 'emo scene'. ' Notice how this stuff conflicts each other? You might want to correct that.

Also, I don't care how much of you might hate My Chemical Romance, I just want to say that they have a song named "It's Not a Fashion Statement, It's a Deathwish" on their 2004 album Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge. Please note that too. [ Litis :: Talk to me ] 18:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Ignore the first part, I see someone already noticed it. [ Litis :: Talk to me ] 10:44, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Um it could be that they are emo and are frustrated that emo is becoming such a commercial thing, or are frustrated that other bands are stealing their sound, or a number of other reasons. It could still make sense and isn't really a contradiction.

Music Video
In the paragraph describing the recording studio scene in the music video, it mentions that Patrick Stump "is seen flailing his arms to imitate an 'R&B' method of singing." I had two contentions with this. First, I wasn't entirely sure that R&B artists that moved their arms while singing were described as "flailing". Imo, its usually more fluid then the jerky actions Stump was doing (and being made fun of for). Second, when I first saw the video I immediately thought of the Hinder video "Lips of an Angel", where the lead singer Austin Winkler flails his arms in what has been described as a possesed fashion, and has the same pained face while singing that Stump has in the recording studio scene. Coupled with the fact that this song is a critique of the 'emo scene', wouldn't this comparison be more accurate? Jklharris 02:00, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Chris Moyles
In the UK, on Radio 1, DJ Chris Moyles popularised an alternate version of the lyrics: 'this aint' a scene, it's a God damn arse face', prompted by the frequent mishearings/misunderstandings. Would this be suitable for the trivia section? 172.209.203.235 01:23, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Error in the title?
Shouldn't the title be called "This Ain't a Scene, It's a Arms Race"? (replacing "an" with "a"), considering that in the song the term "a" is used rather than "an"? The song either goes "It's a God damn arms race" or "It's a [silence] damn arms race", so in both the censored and uncensored version the term "a" is used, not "an". --John Stattic 14:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

But the proper grammer follows, despite what the song sings. John 20:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

pete's not know for his grammer [several times in lyrics he uses the wrong form of to] but i think that how the artist did it comes before grammer -- anon


 * The title is as stated on the album/single cover. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 17:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


 * This isn't a grammar issue. The lyric is, "This ain't a scene, it's a God damn arms race."

The song, however, is titled "This Ain't a Scene, It's An Arms Race", which I'm pretty sure is correct as far as grammar goes. 64.53.37.3 (talk) 08:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

funeral scene
the scene with the guitarist playing on a coffin is actually a reference to a guns and roses video, which is also what avenged sevenfold was doing

Yeah, I sincerely doubt Fall Out Boy would be paying tribute to Avenged Sevenfold

Rockband spam from 63.225.233.215
Someone from that IP has added details of downloadable content for the rockband game to a number of song articles, including this one, a thinly veiled attempt at advertising, i don't think these release dates are noteworthy and the edits should probably be removed. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/63.225.233.215 for edits in question. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnonyGnome (talk • contribs) 00:51, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's spam...it's relevant to the article because as it's another form of release. If a song is released on vinyl, it'd be in the article, right? 66.57.20.114 (talk) 23:41, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Another genre debate?
I'm not sure who keeps adding up power pop, but usually power pop songs tend to have this sensibility thats pretty much about love, I mean not all, but most of it. So I was thinking that it should be just considered as either pop punk or even punk rock, as it does talk about pete's frustration for the emo scene, which at the very least tackle up counterculture(a punk ideology), and social criticism, which is pretty much how most punk rock songs are, but of course they still have this sort of "pop" feel to it, when it changes from verse to chorus, the verse has this pop/hip-hop feel to it, and when it moves on to the chorus it becomes rock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.2.105.18 (talk) 22:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Impact date
"The song officially debuted on November 21 at the American Music Awards and was shipped to radio stations that night[citation needed] (with an impact date of December 5 in the United States)." What exactly is an "impact"date? How is it different from a "debut" or "release date"?--Khajidha (talk) 12:49, 27 October 2017 (UTC)