Talk:Thomas-Morse MB-4

Image for the article?
There's a photographic image of this aircraft at [Aviastar]. Could this be used for the article? --TraceyR (talk) 17:03, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Aviastar is a notorious copyvio site - see WikiProject Aircraft/Aviastar, an d we should be very wary about using that site as a source for anything. Note, however, that the photos in the (1920) Flight article used as a reference, as they were published pre-1923, are probably public domain in the US - see and . As such, they should be OK to upload on en:wiki.Nigel Ish (talk) 17:22, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification Nigel. Just a thought though: Since the aircraft (probably) didn't survive beyond 1923, all images should be in the public domain by now, even if Aviastar was to have pinched 'its' image from elsewhere without attribution. The image in Flight is a side view, which rather defeats the object for this aircraft! --TraceyR (talk) 07:06, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Since we don't know where Aviastar got the photos from, we cannot be sure as to when they were first PUBLISHED, which is key to pd-us. The Flight articles have a definite publication date and so are safe. While the article used as a reference has only the one side view, the Flight article used as an external link has two photos, that better show the layout of this peculiar aircraft.Nigel Ish (talk) 07:55, 20 October 2013 (UTC)