Talk:Thomas J. Dodd

(JFPO)
Contrary to User:Firebug's claims the JPFO is not a 'fringe' group. It's website is cited by Encyclopedia Brittanica as "Best of the Web", so the work they do is clearly encyclopedic quality. They have received the Heritage of Freedom Award from the Students for the Second Amendment. They have extensively documented Nazi weapons laws:
 * http://www.jpfo.org/NaziLawEnglish.htm
 * http://www.jpfo.org/GCA_68.htm

The above article and the book it reviews clearly document the involvement of Thomas J Dodd in this. Mlorrey 22:52, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * JPFO rdrs to Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, "founded by former firearms dealer Aaron Zelman in 1986" and having 4000 members. "[C]learly encyclopedic quality" is damn hard to connect to "best" let alone "best of the Web". And Googling
 * JPFO OR "Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership" "Encyclopedia Brittanica"
 * "Best of the Web" produces 2 hits for the blog of a Doug Ross, with indistinguishable previews, and the accessible one is interminable and mentions the org and the other keywords only in separate items. Mlorrey was banned by ArbCom a couple months later after a few hundred edits, and remains blocked, so hope of confirming their undocumented assertion seems slim. --Jerzy•t 22:17, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

removal of Unreferenced
I removed the Unreferenced from this article, as it seems now to be documented. If there any remaining items that need to be attributed, please use the fact template to note them. — Bellhalla 22:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Schwwartz?
A G-search produces
 * about 285,000 for Prosser, Wade and Schwwartz

of which the first thirty all nevertheless spell the third name with a single W. Putting quotes around it produces
 * 1 for "Prosser, Wade and Schwwartz"

and guess what the one is. (It displays the first 2 results for
 * "Prosser, Wade and Schwartz"

as well.) The first 30 of the quarter million are all for works by Prosser, Wade and Schwartz, or presumably later editions, with additional editors. Clearly "Schwartz" is a typo, which i've corrected. --Jerzy•t 21:31, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Shrunken Heads as Evidence.
Can someone review this please? I think this page should include some acknowledgment of the possibility that Dodd's shrunken head might have been planted at Buchenwald by PsyOps when they liberated the camp. Dissid3nt (talk) 16:35, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * "Having said that, the maker of this video also believes that the holocaust is a giant myth." This source fails WP:RS quite easily.  Also per WP:FRINGE: "A fringe theory can be considered notable enough for a dedicated article if it has been referenced extensively, and in a serious manner, in at least one major publication, or by a notable group or individual that is independent of the theory."  Not in this case, I'm afraid.  Cheers :>  Doc   talk  17:47, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * That "shrunken head" obviously came from an anthropological museum, not from some concentration camp inmate, So the video was basically correct on this. Assuming that it is the same as here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eowsbXrBhig --41.151.82.26 (talk) 21:51, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

So because PBS ran a doc that said "a shrunken, stuffed and preserved human head of one of the concentration camp victims" that statement can be posted as fact here on Wikipedia? I should mention that neither the Wikipedia article on Buchenwald nor the one on Ohrdruf carries any mention of shrunken heads. Just curious. Isn't it possible that PBS merely repeated the false statements made in the Pffafenberger affidavit, which were in turn repeated at Nuremberg? I mean, if you want to talk about an ORIGINAL source that fails, if not WP:RS, then certainly a test of truthfulness, I believe the Pffafenberger affidavit is it.Dissid3nt (talk) 21:09, 11 November 2010 (UTC)


 * We don't rely on "truth" regarding sources: we rely on verifiability. The fact is that PBS is a reliable source and can be used and that the website you provided is not is not in dispute.  WP:RSN would be the place to bring up the reliability of that particular source.  You make an excellent point: the Buchenwald article especially needs mention of the shrunken heads: apparently there has been some resistance there concerning the issue, and I'm positive it's been in there before.  I would suggest bringing it up on the talk page, since there are an abundance of reliable sources that talk about the shrunken heads, and I would gladly help write a section about it if there are a few reliable sources to back it up.  Cheers :>  Doc   talk  21:22, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Well I believe the heads were found at Ohrdruf, which was a sub-camp of Buchenwald. So first of all there should be an article about Ohrdruf, which there is not, and in it would need to be some mention of the shrunken heads. It's funny that our "reliable" source, PBS, is making use of material from an unreliable source, Pffafenberger. The net effect being to legitimize something (the shrunken head story) which could really use a much deeper investigation. I just can't shake the image of SS guards shrinking heads by the light of their skin-shaded lamps.Dissid3nt (talk) 03:56, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The Ohrdruf concentration camp page has been around since 4 June 2008. How did you not find it?Markvs88 (talk) 04:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

The Germans didn't consider "Jews" to be human so anything was possible at that time. I have never heard about Shrunken heads. They did experiment with children doing some horrendous things so I suppose anything is possible. However I do remember Thomas J. Dodd as a corrupt Political figure from Connecticut many years ago. I was very young at the time but my Dad was visibly upset because he talked about, "how no one will trust him anymore". We took a ride to see where Mr. Dodd hid the Limo he used while in the State. It was located in a State garage in Warehouse Point Connecticut. The licence plate had "DODD" or "DODD 1" on it. There is a new book written by David D. Koskoff about Mr. Dodd and his flamboyant behavior. I seem to remember that "Dodd" was in "big trouble" and that it caused the people of the State to very upset. Although he did some good things I have ofter wondered how this corruption could be covered up for all these years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyler306 (talk • contribs) 12:35, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * "The Germans didn't consider "Jews" to be human". Now that statement is a load of bullcrap for several reasons. --41.151.62.159 (talk) 21:40, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Ambassador to Germany?
William E Dodd was US Ambassador to Germany from 33 to 37; but Thomas J. Dodd was never Ambassador to Germany75.24.76.83 (talk) 14:44, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

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