Talk:Thomas West, 3rd Baron De La Warr

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We really need to discuss the de la warr(e)/West family line at some point.. Rhymeless 07:07, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I see no reason for not explaining why Thomas West, 3rd Baron De La Warr is two centuries after Reginald West, 6th Baron De La Warr, when a single phrase will do it. Please do not delete again without explanation here.Septentrionalis 14:48, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * It's absolutely bloody obvious, that's why. Peerages are recreated all the time, and there's absolutely no way we're sticking "of the xth creation" after the name of every single peer. Proteus (Talk) 14:52, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I see the point. You may be confusing me with someone else; I'm editing the family of West/De La Warr, not making a general revision.
 * In this case, the peerage was recreated in the same family, with the same surname, and there was (at this point) no higher title by which the Barons De La Warr were known. Nor were they distinguishable by local epithet, like the Lords Grey - or I would have added that instead. I think that offers peculiar scope for confusion, and I would oppose adding the phrase under any other conditions.
 * I don't intend to add the phrase everywhere the conditions above apply, either; just to some barons in this family. Wikipedia is inconsistent. Good enough? Septentrionalis 15:47, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * As for its being "absolutely bloody obvious", that is true only if you already know the subject. Since this person is of interest to students of U.S. history who don't know about second creations, some kindness to them seems in order.Robert A West 6 July 2005 17:25 (UTC)

Powhatan Tactics?
In the paragraph regarding De La Warr's Irish tactics against the Powhatan, the following follows it: "these tactics,identical to those practiced by the Powhatans themselves" I think an example or a link to another page about the Powhatans indentical tactics might be useful to as well as sourcing this information for somebody researching this time period. 8/19/2008 Thinking Late 76.252.78.170 (talk) 00:47, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation of name
Was "De La Warr" pronounced the same way as "Delaware"? Perhaps an IPA transcription can be added to the article. — Cheers, Jack Lee  –talk– 05:22, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

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Date of death
I changed the date of death back to 7 June. It was changed to 7 July, based on the Encyclopedia of Virginia article, but that was the only one I found with the July date. Sources giving a June date: — howcheng  {chat} 17:18, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Encyclopedia Britannica
 * The Peerage of the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Ireland (Debrett, 1816)
 * Views of The Seats of Noblemen and Gentlemen in England, Wales, Scotland (Neale, 1818)
 * The Magazine of American History (1994), citing a primary source
 * Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage (1914)
 * The Jamestown 350th Anniversary Historical Booklets (1957)
 * The complete peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant (Cokayne, 1910)
 * The National Cyclopaedia of American Biography (1906)

more work needed
I came across this article (and that of his brothers) while intending to start an article about an early American delegate. I performed some cleanup, but this article needs a lot of work (citing as its primary source a website entitled historyisfun?).Jweaver28 (talk) 22:43, 2 January 2022 (UTC)