Talk:Thornbury branch line

Requested move 9 February 2017

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Move all per overwhelming consensus. Be patient; it will take me some time to perform all the actual moves. Feel free to help. — JFG talk 22:21, 17 February 2017 (UTC) — JFG talk 22:21, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

– Downcase Branch Line per common lowercase in edited sources (news and books). Dicklyon (talk) 00:10, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thornbury Branch Line → Thornbury branch line
 * Mangotsfield and Bath Branch Line → Mangotsfield and Bath branch line
 * Shepperton Branch Line → Shepperton branch line
 * Hampton Court Branch Line → Hampton Court branch line
 * Fleetwood Branch Line → Fleetwood branch line
 * Lymington Branch Line → Lymington branch line
 * Seaford Branch Line → Seaford branch line
 * Enfield Town Branch Line → Enfield Town branch line
 * Devizes Branch Line → Devizes branch line
 * Cirencester Branch Line → Cirencester branch line
 * Uxbridge (Vine Street) Branch Line → Uxbridge (Vine Street) branch line
 * Westerham Valley Branch Line → Westerham Valley branch line
 * Alcester to Hatton Branch Line → Alcester–Hatton branch line
 * Chertsey Branch Line → Chertsey branch line
 * Blenheim and Woodstock Branch Line → Blenheim and Woodstock branch line
 * Ilfracombe Branch Line → Ilfracombe branch line
 * Hayling Island Branch Line → Hayling Island branch line
 * Tetbury Branch Line → Tetbury branch line
 * Minsterley Branch Line → Minsterley branch line
 * Buntingford Branch Line → Buntingford branch line
 * Clevedon Branch Line → Clevedon branch line
 * Hincaster Branch Line → Hincaster branch line
 * Bexhill West Branch Line → Bexhill West branch line
 * Hawkhurst Branch Line → Hawkhurst branch line
 * Winsford and Over Branch Line → Winsford and Over branch line
 * Chard Branch Line → Chard branch line
 * Butetown Branch Line → Butetown branch line
 * Malmesbury Branch Line → Malmesbury branch line
 * Coley Branch Line → Coley branch line
 * Princes End Branch Line → Princes End branch line
 * Stanmore Branch Line → Stanmore branch line
 * Trentham Park Branch Line → Trentham Park branch line

Sources that support the observation that "Branch Line" is not a part of any proper name for these lines

 * Thornbury Branch Line – books, news
 * Mangotsfield and Bath Branch Line – books, news
 * Shepperton Branch Line – books, news
 * Hampton Court Branch Line – books, news
 * Fleetwood Branch Line – books, news
 * Lymington Branch Line – books, news
 * Seaford Branch Line – books, news
 * Enfield Town Branch Line – books, news
 * Devizes Branch Line – books, news
 * Cirencester Branch Line – books, news
 * Uxbridge (Vine Street) Branch Line – books, news
 * Westerham Valley Branch Line – books, news
 * Alcester to Hatton Branch Line – books, news
 * Chertsey Branch Line – books, news
 * Blenheim and Woodstock Branch Line – books, news
 * Ilfracombe Branch Line – books, news
 * Hayling Island Branch Line – books, news
 * Tetbury Branch Line – books, news
 * Minsterley Branch Line – books, news
 * Buntingford Branch Line – books, news
 * Clevedon Branch Line – books, news
 * Hincaster Branch Line – books, news
 * Bexhill West Branch Line – books, news
 * Hawkhurst Branch Line – books, news
 * Winsford and Over Branch Line – books, news
 * Chard Branch Line – books, news
 * Butetown Branch Line – books, news
 * Malmesbury Branch Line – books, news
 * Coley Branch Line – books, news
 * Princes End Branch Line – books, news
 * Stanmore Branch Line – books, news
 * Trentham Park Branch Line – books, news

Survey

 * Support as nom – I have checked the sources carefully and found no evidence of proper names for any of these branch lines. Dicklyon (talk) 00:10, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Support—thanks for the extensive surveying linked above. In my view, this should be an uncontroversial set of moves. Tony   (talk)  07:03, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Strong support – WP:NCCAPS instructs us not to capitalize such words in titles.  07:40, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose - These are all Proper Noun Phrases and thus should be capitalised. Same old discussion in different venues. Suggest that it is well past time that we stopped prodding this particular WP:DEADHORSE. Mjroots (talk) 15:03, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Support – trivial MOS moves that really shouldn't be controversial. Laurdecl talk 05:07, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Support – These isn't any evidence that these are 'proper noun phrases', or indeed, evidence that 'proper noun phrase' is a proper noun phrase (in reference to Mjroots' annoying capitalisation of said phrase). In accordance with WP:NCCAPS, what's considered a proper name on Wikipedia is determined by surveys of reliable sources. Such surveys, provided above, show that these are not proper names. Furthermore, it is important to note that WP:TITLEFORMAT, which is a policy, tells us that Wikipedia is written in sentence case, meaning that evidence of the use of capitalisation in timetables or headings is not relevant. What matters is usage in a sentence, and Dicklyon's survey shows that the present capitalisation is not in accordance with usage in reliable sources. RGloucester  — ☎ 19:39, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
Note that "Branchline" like in the lead of the present Thornbury Branch Line is also very rare in sources, except for a brewing company. Dicklyon (talk) 01:32, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Mj, re your 3 points: Dicklyon (talk) 17:43, 9 February 2017 (UTC) CN¥
 * These are all Proper Noun Phrases and thus should be capitalised. – If you can present a credible case that even one of these is a proper name, or is treated as proper name in sources, I will withdraw this multi RM and treat each one more carefully and individually.
 * Same old discussion in different venues. – RM is the venue you insisted on; this issue is in addition being discussed on the project talk page (the same page where you stated that you are ignoring that discussion).
 * Suggest that it is well past time that we stopped prodding this particular WP:DEADHORSE. – The gradual move toward reducing over-capitalization per WP:NCCAPS is not a dead horse, just an ongoing gnoming process. In particular, before your rant here, nobody has opposed downcasing any "X branch line" as far as I can recall.