Talk:Thorsten Behrens

Notability
How is the: not notable?
 * Chairman of one of the worlds biggest Open Source Foundations
 * backing one of the biggest Open Source projects and owning one of the most valuable open source trademarks
 * with a revenue of more than 500.000EUR per annum
 * and 6 employees
 * after just 3 years of existence
 * with secondary sources ranging from heise over zdnet to Linux Magazine

-- Sweetshark (talk) 14:07, 30 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I understand your frustration; however, the notability of the Foundation is different to the notability of an individual. Per WP:N, "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." Generally, that coverage needs to reflect notability beyond an associated notable topic. If the only basis for notability for Mr Behrens is the Document Foundation, he should be mentioned there and likely does not merit a separate article. That also applies to the related new article Björn Michaelsen by the way. Researching and adding additional verified information establishing notability independently of TDF is thus the action to take, before the deletionists get here! ClareTheSharer (talk) 15:00, 30 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Both work on open standards at OASIS and work at OpenOffice.org are independent of work at TDF. Beyond that, what is currently there is already much better sourced than comparable articles. Sweetshark (talk) 15:43, 30 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey, I'm just offering a friendly explanation of WP:N - I'm not here for an argument and am an inclusionist so won't be the one to start the AFD. But trust me on this, others will ask hard questions on this subject. That's why I think it's better to pay attention to diverse notability early in the life of an article to avoid your work being wasted.
 * By the way, are you the same person listed with this user name here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Developers#M by any chance? If you are, I recommend you declare your interest per WP:COI. ClareTheSharer (talk) 16:11, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didnt want to argue either :). And yes, that's me -- working on LibreOffice for a different company. Sweetshark (talk) 16:41, 30 September 2015 (UTC)