Talk:Those women longed for the touch of others' lips, and thus invited their kisses/GA1

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Reviewer: AryKun (talk · contribs) 19:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @AryKun Hi. Thank you. Any news? TeenAngels1234 (talk) 22:08, 8 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I'll review the prose after doing a copy-edit. In the meantime, some initial comments on sourcing:
 * Why are The Anime Café, Ex, and Digitally Obsessed considered RS?
 * I discussed The Anime Café before. For example, Akio Nagatomi is used as a source, among others, by Anime News Network - many AC editors are also ANN editors, like Lee and Raphael See. Ex is among A&M/ORS. For DO, which is mentioned in many GAs here: they have a strict policy regarding their peer-reviewed reviewes and many requierements, including technical requirements. A number of reliable sources mention it as a source; not a review in which I'm included, but this GAN has a good list.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 17:40, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * CBR is marginally reliable according to the last RSP listing I saw, and the specific article cited here is just one of their pointless listicles, so I'm inclined to remove that source entirely.
 * Yup, it's listed as situational by AM/ORS and WP:CMC/REF, but the article mentioned is not those questionable AI-generated articles they recently made. Theo Kogod discussed NGE many times in his articles and his statements are pretty on-point and OK to me - as far as I can tell, he reported well-estabilished facts about the series. While I normally agree, I think that Kogod opinion is pertinent and also reflects the opinion of many persons in the fandom about Asuka.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 17:40, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * A couple of the Film School Rejects sources need the formatting fixed; instead of having separate website and publisher parameters, just write Film School Rejects in the website parameter (as in ref 117).
 * Thank you! Hope it works.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 17:40, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Most of the other refs seem reliable; I don't think I'm qualified to judge the reliability of the Japanese sources, so I'm AGF-ing those. AryKun (talk) 15:24, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * From the ones I recall, Anime Anime! is quite a useful source that often interviews famous Japanese people. Oricon and Billboard are also quite famous especially for music articles. Newtype is published by Kadokawa Shoten Tintor2 (talk) 18:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the further delay in getting around to this. I've performed a c/e; feel free to revert and discuss any changes you disagree with.
 * "Asuka Soryu Langley" Our article calls her Asuka Langley Soryu.
 * "she reveals...into tears" You should also mention the reason here.
 * 'after "a recovery".' Recovery from what?
 * "The staff in progress decided to abandon the original project" Do you mean "the staff decided to abandon the original idea while working on it"?
 * "not touching [her] seemed to hurt Anno's pride" Not clear why not having Lilith in the story would hurt Anno.
 * "Iso also worked on Lilith's design" Why mention this separately? It doesn't seem surprising for a character designer to work on a character's design.
 * 'Concerning this..."colossal films".' This doesn't seem to concern the previous information in any way, shape, or form.
 * "was popular in Japan and" If you're using the past tense for this, maybe say "was popular in Japan at the time" if the source supports that"?
 * "sang the tune" You can't sing a tune.
 * "instinct to preserve their state and to change" How do you preserve your state and change at the same time?
 * "are like men and women" Needs elaboration.
 * Images are licensed properly and illustrate the article well.
 * I'll spot-check the sources after the comments above are addressed. AryKun (talk) 16:30, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay. Done. Hope it works. One thing: concering the "Proposal" "recovery" and the Lilith "Anno's pride" interview, the sources are laconic on this point. Even if I think that by "recovery" we mean hospitalization, or something similar to the rescue operation in episode 20, I would prefer to leave it like this so as not to go overboard on an assumption. Ditto regarding Lilith; Sadamoto does not specify why Anno's pride should have been "hurt". While I might assume it's because Anno has always had quite a feminist verve, I don't want to over-interpret the sources. Torn about this, since I think both things are quite worthy of mention, I decided to leave it at that. I've been racking my brain for days but I don't know how to rephrase it.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 21:04, 23 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Spotchecks performed on following refs:
 * Black, Noah (21 January 2020). "Get in the Robot". MCC Agora
 * Covill, Max (19 June 2019). "The Perfect Shots of 'Neon Genesis Evangelion'". Film School Rejects.
 * "Giornata mondiale del bacio ecco i più famosi negli anime" (in Italian). Wired. 13 April 2018.
 * Shinseiki Evangelion Review - Episode 15: Lie And Silence / Those Women Longed For the Touch of Other's Lips, and Thus Invited Their Kisses". The Anime Café
 * Assuming good faith on Japanese-language refs.