Talk:Three Hundred and Thirty Five Years' War

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I apologise for raising a question about an accurate well written article featured on today's Wikipedia main page - but does really conform to the policy for being notable? This is article appears to be a quaint bit of local history which might best be briefly mentioned in the history section of the Isles of Scilly article. - Op. Deo 08:28, 9 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I think it is a notable oddity, but notable none the less. Though it may ultimately be quaint in terms of not having any serious consequences, its uniqueness alone makes it noteworthy. BarkingDoc


 * I agree. The longest war in history is worth mentioning, even -- or particularly -- if it was also among the least intense.  This is, after all, an encyclopedia.  What's the shortest official war on record, for that matter?  The Six Days War?  If there's no List of Unusual Wars on wiki now, it's probably only a matter of time.  Wyvern 09:58, 9 September 2005 (UTC)


 * The Anglo-Zanzibar War is generally considered history's shortest war at 45 minutes. BTW, I'm not so sure that a list of "unusual" wars would be a good idea; the idea could be considered rather trivializing.--Pharos 13:06, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

---::::Thank you, Pharos; I hadn't known about that particular squabble. And for what it's worth, I also think the 'odd wars' category would be silly. But then, have you seen the list of odd wiki articles lately? An inane subject does not seem to be an article-killing obstacle. Wyvern 23:23, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Guinness World Records
On a whim, I sent Guinness some info about this war. (They have the Hundred Years' War, which lasted 116 years, as "Longest Irregular War" - as opposed to "Longest Continuous War", which they give as the Thirty Years' War.) If I get a response, I will post it here. Cmadler 14:08, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Other Non-wars
Are there any other "wars" which would fall into this category?

Could add the supposed continuation of the Crimean War between Berwick-upon-Tweed and Russia (BoT having been incorporated into England during the Crimean War, but having been specifically mentioned in the declaration of war).

Isn't Liechtenstein supposed to have been left out of the Treaty of Versailles settlement and then found itself fighting two World Wars in September 1939?

The above could be added to the List of unusual wars mentioned above when developed.

Jackiespeel 15:44, 9 September 2005 (UTC)


 * There was something on the news about fifteen years ago about a peace treaty being signed between the mayors of Rome and Tunis, thus symbolically ending the Third Punic War after over 2100 years. JHCC (talk) 19:53, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

The third punic war, as the above man said, had no peace treaty. So technically, it persisted for 2000 years (Or at least until 476 AD) ... the longest war in history. 70.60.221.253 20:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Really the longest?
I think the longest war should be the Arauco War: it began in Reinogüelén (1536) and it ended only in 1881. That's 345 years, 10 more than the war between Netherlands and the Scilly Islands. --KRATK 19:04, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think a declaration of war was issued, furthermore not a country but rather a group of people were attacked. Sander 15:39, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I read of another war, that could be the longest... The Republic of San Marino and Sweden forgot to sign a peace treaty during the Vestfalia peace during Thirty years' war.. So if we count the years since 1648, the two countries signed the peace only on 1996, and this war lasted 348 years... And I don't know when San Marino declared war on Sweden during the war... This war could last more than 348 years, becoming the longest peaceful conflict in the history. Bukkia 21:45, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

None of these are even close: There was no peace treaty in the Peloponnesian War until the 20th century.69.158.185.64 00:59, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

New article on general concept
Please see List of wars extended by diplomatic irregularity, which was largely inspired by the discussion on this talk page.--Pharos 04:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC) - Another war without any (human) casualties, Pig War Lasted 12 years between US and GB and was settled by Kaiser Wilhelm I76.177.221.126 00:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Not a real war
This was not a real war as recognized by professional historians, and it's not a unique situation either; see List of wars extended by diplomatic irregularity. I suggest that instead of having an article on this non-notable concept of "Three Hundred and Thirty Five Years' War", we should rather have an article on the legitimately historically-important Blake's 1651 Capture of the Isles of Scilly (that could also cover the related trivia). Good sources for such an article:, .--Pharos (talk) 23:09, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW, there are two other articles on Scilly battles we should have: the 1805 Battle of Scilly Isles with Admiral Nelson (see here), and the 1944 Battle of the Scillies with HMS Brissenden (see here).--Pharos (talk) 23:26, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I think we need a better title for this article. PatGallacher (talk) 11:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * How about "Netherlands - Scilly Isles Conflict"? PatGallacher (talk) 23:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

The only scientific citation in this article points to the fact that the war probably is a myth.--75.20.204.21 (talk) 22:07, 22 April 2011 (UTC)


 * The 'facts' stated in this argument lend weight to the idea that this was not a real war; ranking alongside the idea that Berwick was still at war with Russia. There cannot be a peace treaty signed between the islands and the dutch as the islands are not an independant nation

This article should be re-written to take into account it is not true Montalban (talk) 00:33, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Longest war?
How can the description in this article describe this war as the longest, when another Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_wars ranks this war as the third longest?


 * ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MartiniGM (talk • contribs) 17:39, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Better Map needed?
Hello! The scale of the current map and small resolution of the image makes Scilly practically impossible to see while the Netherlands also remain fairly difficult to make out, especially for higher resolution monitors and screens. I propose it should be replaced with new, higher resolution image with a somewhat larger scale and has Scilly marked out for clarification. 193.183.211.65 (talk) 20:05, 3 March 2022 (UTC)