Talk:Throbbing Gristle

Origin Of The Name
In the trivia section, someone has entered that Throbbing Gristle may also refer to the heart. I am giving a heads up that I am removing this, as Genesis P-Orridge states in Simon Reynold's Rip It Up And Start Again that they wanted to give the group a purile name. Therefore it IS meant to be the slang for an erect penis.

All Tomorrows' Parties
Throbbing Gristle didn't play at All tomorrows parties in April 2004. Their show was canceled. This should be updated.

M. Alexander alex777@telbank.pl


 * Best you do it then... quercus robur

Industrial
Throbbing Gristle were known as an "Industrial" group. In fact, they were one of the first groups to be known to make "industrial music". This should be mentioned Dunk meister 22:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Especially since many "Industrial purists" will not accept groups other than TG to have the designation of Industrial under their genre no matter how similar. Xe7al (talk) 22:33, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Need Ultrasonic Info
This band used to use ultrasonic at their concerts a lot and I think this needs to be mentioned. DyslexicEditor 05:12, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Inaccurate Info
The article says that Throbbing Gristle "pioneered the use of pre-recorded samples". This actually isn't the case. Sampling was used significantly--though perhaps not extensively--before Throbbing Gristle was making music. For example, some of the early works of Steve Reich (i.e. "It's Gonna Rain" (1965) and "Come Out" (1966)) used pre-recorded samples, while even earlier Karlheinz Stockhausen was the first composer to rearrange the sound envelope through the use of pre-recorded samples with his "Gesang der Jünglinge" (1955/6). I wanted to share this here before blindly making the edit to the main article. --postmodpunk 02:33, 7 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I believe it was TG who helped in the creation of the first sample triggered keyboard or something of the sort  — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexOvShaolin (talk • contribs)


 * Nonsense. It wasn't the first, it wasn't a sampler (regardless of what Sleazy Christopherson wants to call it), and it wasn't even close to the first time a piano-type keyboard had been used to trigger or create other/nonmusical/stochastically-sourced sound. You have to ignore 38 prior years of classical and popular experimentation with found sound, tape manipulation, prepared piano, Musique concréte, the 1956 invention of digital sampling, the release of the first commercial sampler the same year TG first formed, etc. (and 50 years of aesthetic thought in related arts fields) to believe this statement is remotely true. And, the source is Sleazy's MySpace blog - question, is that considered authoritative? Sounds like original research to me. (?) You know what, either way, this talk page section has been up for 6 years and only one vague, unsigned statement in support has been offered. I'm making the edit.


 * Incidentally, postmodpunk, not sure what you mean by "rearrange the sound envelope" but the first piece constructed of edited found sounds was Pierre Schaeffer's 1948 "Etude au Chemin de Fer", the Railroad Etude. Gotta give Schaeffer his props. The concept is actually considered to have begun in the visual arts, in 1917, with Marcel Duchamp's "readymades".SteubenGlass (talk) 00:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

TG live
is there any reason this should be below the influences and trivia section? revert. Alex Ov  Shaolin  15:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I wish you would've looked at the substance of the edit before simply reverting it. I don't really care where the sections go--but the live discography on this page is simply dead weight, being the same as the info on Throbbing Gristle live.  --Jackhorkheimer 20:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * more important info should come first, a brief overview of the live TG should be put in the section on this page a la Coil (band) -- Alex Ov  Shaolin  23:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Middle
There's a "Beginning" section and an "End" section" - but no "middle", a period of four years of activity isn't even mentioned... Totnesmartin 09:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Mystery Men
I've never heard of, and can find no other online references to "classical composers such as Austin Bedell and Raphael Villalobos" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.213.158.45 (talk) 17:38, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Bootlegs
What's with all the bootleg albums in the discography? Daniel Christensen (talk) 15:00, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

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