Talk:TiVo/Archive 1

Intelligence?

 * "Tivo systems function similarly to VCRs, but use non-removable hard-disk storage, and generally contain more intelligence."

What does it mean that they 'contain more intelligence'? Koyaanis Qatsi, Sunday, March 31, 2002
 * It means they are able to schedule recordings without codes, using TV guides, suggest recordings based on what the user watches, and all around have better capability than a VCR. 68.107.17.239 19:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Content flagging
I have reverted this page again. I believe User:Fxer may not understand what Macrovision actually is. Macrovision is a signal embedded in the vertical blanking interval of the television signal. TiVo does detect these Macrovision signals and uses this information to determine its content protection policy. So, you could say that TiVo uses Macrovision - that is what is meant by TiVo's statement. However, Macrovision does not write software for TiVo. --204.176.49.25 21:32, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The way I've understood TiVo's statements is that they licence proprietary software from Macrovision (the name of the company, and the name of the software they created) to deal with the Macrovision signal in the broadcast, TiVo wasn't actually writing any software with the name Macrovision. I could be wrong, TiVo isn't really forthright with the issue. I wouldn't be against rewriting the sentence though (which I just did), it doesn't really matter where the code comes from, just that Macrovision is at the heart of the content flagging flap. --Fxer 23:57, 22 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Hello - please do not be so quick to mark this edit as vandalism. It isn't. It is a good-faith edit to correct the article with a good-faith explanation on this talk tage. When was the last time you saw a vandal do that?


 * It is factually incorrect that Macrovision wrote any software for TiVo. It is an established fact how the TiVo content-protection works. TiVo checks the Macrovision signals and determines policy based on that. To be allowed do this, TiVo must become a licensee of Macrovision technology. This is how all consumer electronic vendors work. Nowhere does TiVo state that they use Macrovision software - they use Macrovision signals embedded in the video signal. However, I agree with the new phrasing of the section. --204.176.49.25 00:21, 23 September 2005 (UTC)


 * * That response still doesn't mean that the edit in question was "vandalism."

Malaysia's Third Pay TV just like TiVo Technology
In December 26th, 2005 Malaysia is going to launch it's third Pay TV just like TiVo Technology. The TV Station which is, 'Fine TV' was brought up by a local Malaysia company called Network Guidance Pvt Ltd.

So, it is going to be the tough competition in broadcasting industry here. Well after the launches of Malaysia's second Pay TV, MiTV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.187.156.10 (talk • contribs) 15:27, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Correction, perhaps?
On my TIVO at least (perhaps this differs by models?) the "Season Pass" function does not record "regardless of ... what channel," -- rather, a season pass is based on the series and the channel. A series airing simultaneously -- or on a 1-week delay, as is common with the USA network -- on multiple networks will only be "captured" from one.


 * There also seems to be a certain intelligence regarding the same series airing in different "seasons" on one channel. For example, some programs are playing new episodes weekly and are also in reruns 5 nights a week. Even with "First run and reruns" selected, the TiVo is smart enough to distinguish the two on one network.

Can someone more familiar with different TiVo models verify whether this is a common functionality difference or whether specific models differ? I haven't got the model number, but my unit is a "DirecTiVo" by Phillips.

It may be that TiVo recognizes that syndicated programs aren't "new", by the date the episode first broadcast. Press the Info button while viewing the episode description page to see this information. Gentaur 20:44, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Correct. A program is 'First Run' if it is within two weeks of the original air date.  --MegaZone 08:42, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Season Pass is NOT channel specific. It will pick up episodes of the same show on different channels if you don't specify First Run. Example: I have South Park on Season Pass and it picks it up from Comedy Central as well as our local Fox affiliate. It also has a two-week 'memory' in that it will not pick up the same episode twice within this two-week period no matter how many times it airs. This has been proven with Comedy Central's airing of everything they have. They air a single episode about 7 to 10 times a week. I've also run into this with Family Guy airing on Fox and rerunning on Cartoon Network a few weeks later. Example: If (arbitrary Episode #621) airs for the first time on November 1st on its primary channel, then repeats on November 15th on another channel it will pick it up again unless you have specified first run only. 24.39.192.122

Availability in Canada?
Service is available in Canada but they don't sell the PVRs to Canada? I don't understand that. SD6-Agent 17:52, 24 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Just as you say. The service is available, but the hardware isn't sold in retail chains in Canada.  TiVo hasn't officially certified all their systems for Canada, so the end-user has to import it themselves.  There are resellers who will ship to Canada.  --MegaZone 08:43, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I can say for certain that the service is not available in the Province of Quebec. Therefore, I will add this exclusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.245.246.9 (talk) 16:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Link
There's a link on the page that leads to Sonicblue Airways. Somehow I don't think that's correct but I don't know where it should go. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 09:59, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Fixed. --Coyoty 20:37, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

New services
Someone should add in the new services TiVo distributed this month. --Coyoty 21:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

GSoD is scary but good?
It says the Green Screen of Death is a "good sign" despite its scary appearance", how good can it be, when you cannot use it at all when it is down?24.238.68.106 08:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

It means that the unit is recovering from an error, and will likely work just fine when it's done. So while it's true that you can't use the box for a few hours, at least it's not critical and you'll be back in business shortly. seinman 15:48, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Statement not true.
"Unlike tape-based recorders, a program can be viewed while it is being recorded." Stuff can be recorded on a "tape-based" recorder and watched at the same time. Or am I mistaken on the intent of the statement? Either way it seems ambiguous. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.227.171.6 (talk • contribs).
 * There may be commercial tape-based recorders that can playback a show whilst also recording it, but I don't know of them. This certainly isn't a common feature of consumer-level machines. If you know of examples of VHS machines that can do this, can you provide sources? If so, then this article would need to be reworded. By the way its a good idea to sign your edits to talk pages - add ~ . Best, Gw e rnol 20:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe the original writer meant that the recording, not the program being recorded, couldn't be watched at the same time it's being recorded. I've changed the wording to make it more accurate.  [[Image:Tycon.jpg]]Coyoty 18:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The statement is still confusing, making it appear that you couldnt watch the show you were recording on a VCR, which isn't accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.235.22.2 (talk)
 * Unlike tape-based recorders, a recording can be viewed at different time locations while it is still being recorded, e.g. watching the beginning of a movie while the movie is still being recorded. - it's ugly, but it works. &mdash; RevRagnarok  Talk Contrib 20:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

TiVo in the UK
Would it be useful to have some content on the situation with TiVo in the UK? There is no active hardware service in the UK, only the subscription listings service, with users having to source hardware from a finite resource of the Thomson PVR100UK. THe old business model still holds in the UK, with the monthly/lifetime split. --Worm 20:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

GPL Issues
the article:

Free software comunity Controversies
The tivo run free software, but at the same time it comes with a special mecanism that prevent running modified version of the free software that is included on the tivo,this has led to the creation of the term Tivoisation by Richard Stallman and the creation some part of the gplv3 that are against such restrictions. There is a debate in the free softeware comunity on if such behaviour should or should not be allowed

The fact that a device running free software use DRM has also is also contreversed just like the tivoisation

previous talk about the the article beeing reverted
Copied from my talk page:

why did you reverted my oart on free software in the tivo article Stallman speech and the gplv3 are a lot influenced by the tivo restrctions and in the free software comunity there is a big contreversy on if we should allow or not such behaviour

this part is also important in order to improove the gplv3 article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 00 tux (talk • contribs)
 * Because I don't have enough time to copyedit what you wrote, and there isn't a huge controversy. I've hacked TiVos for a few years now, and TiVo has been very open about Linux - the other day I added a link to TiVo to their source page. The true controversy is when it comes to units like the WRT54G. It's perfectly acceptable in the real world to run closed source code on top of a GPL OS, and TiVo follows the GPL to the letter by providing all their changes. &mdash; RevRagnarok  Talk Contrib Reverts 10:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * the contreversy comes from the lack of the freedom to modify and run on the device the gpl part not the proprietary part

00 tux(my point of views(for npov), howto customise a signature) | talk 20:57, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I am putting a copy here too, because after I went to bed the change was inserted again, and another editor reverted it too. &mdash; RevRagnarok  Talk Contrib Reverts 10:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

from my talk page: i was told to include my content here in order to be reviewed before inclusion on the main page because of gramatical reasons: reverted your TiVo edit for a few reasons. Firstly, it was poorly written from a grammatical stance. Secondly, the way it was worded made it read as being very POV. Thirdly, I don't feel that it's worthy of being included. While I realize that TiVo's policies are of concern to open source enthusiasts, I just don't think it's necessary to have that in the article. However, that's not my call to make, so perhaps if you re-wrote the section to make it more gramatically sound and asked if it was appropriate on the talk page, it could be added to the article, assuming others agree. - seinman 04:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Linux kernel patches by TiVo link:

This link is pretty useless, as it links to Linux, Kernel, and Patches respectively. What one would expect is that it links to a URL where one can have a look at the patches made by TiVo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.153.13.244 (talk)
 * Um, no. The "Linux" link clearly goes to TiVo.com and goes to the patches made by them. &mdash; RevRagnarok  Talk Contrib 03:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Tivoization
Tivoization is an invented word to describe TiVo's lockdown of their machine to circumvent open-source requirements of the GPL, and doesn't need its own page. As a result I suggest it be merged with this article. Kamek 03:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose I personally don't like the word nor the complaints about it. ref1 ref2 (about 5 lines up) However, I accept that it's a real word and some people are concerned about it even if I disagree. I believe if it should be merged anywhere, it should go into the GPL article. (BTW, I moved the merge request to a more reasonable section - Controversies.) &mdash; RevRagnarok  Talk Contrib 11:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Weak Agree (vote assumed by RevRagnarok) The word Tivoization only has 591 hits on Google, and Tivoisation has 209. The term is a very minor Internet memes, and it is important to note that the use of the word to refer to the GPLv2 issue is not the only (or first) use of the term...
 * http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/31832 (March 17, 2004)
 * http://www.paidcontent.org/pc/arch/2005_02_23.shtml (Feb 23, 2005) Candice Meyers, VP of CNET
 * http://www.thoughtshapers.com/index.php/weblog/archive/cbs-nbc-offer-on-demand-commercial-free-programs-via-web/ (Nov. 08, 2005)
 * http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/060412-110352 (Apr. 12, 2006)

I havent found an exact date, but Richard Stallman dicates it was early 2006.
 * http://linux.sys-con.com/read/176365.htm (Jan. 30, 2006)
 * http://gplv3.fsf.org/pipermail/info-gplv3/2006-February.txt

I agree that this article should be merged into GPL and/or Tivo. Jayvdb 01:11, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Oppose (vote assumed by RevRagnarok) I've never heard this word used to describe this practice, but Tivo is certainly not the only company to lock down their hardware like this, and therefore it is not fair to associate it with the company and their device. The attempt to put this on the Tivo page is just an attempt to disparage the company. If I were looking for information on Tivo, this would not be appropriate information for the wikipedia to show me. However, merging this into the GPL page would be appropriate, as it describes a term used by some in the GPL community to describe a specific practice of circumventing the GPL. Jmelby 17:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Oppose merge. The fact is that many people know what tivoization is without having ever used a Tivo. This is an important concept and short for "mandatory code signing", and becoming a more and more widely used term in the open source movement and in the controversy between DRM implementors and non-DRM activists. Merging Tivoization with Tivo is unneccesary and unhelpful, as the tivoization article will undoubtedly grow in another direction over time. TH 20:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Oppose merge. tivo use free software and so the view of the free software comunity and the FSF is important...this tivoisation has led to very important and contreversed changes in the GPLv3 that is a very important licence in the Free software comunity.
 * instead:add a short explanation on what is tivoisation in the contreversies and point to the bigger article just like the
 * Wifi article
 * see also here for inclusion of such thing

00 tux(my point of views(for npov), howto customise a signature) | talk 21:17, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Oppose (vote assumed by RevRagnarok, who moved it here from Talk:Tivoization) Should not be merged. Tivoization describes a phenomenon of which TiVo is just an example, and deals with free software and DRM, which are entirely distinct issues. GregorB 08:53, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It's been over two weeks, and it looks like there is a lot more oppose. I'm removing the flags. &mdash; RevRagnarok  Talk Contrib 21:02, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Tivoization Part 2
what about incluging a link to the tivoisation in the tivo article in the contreversies? 00 tux(my point of views(for npov), howto customise a signature) | talk 21:11, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think it needs it. If you absolutely insist (this does seem to be some kind of crusade), then make a under controversies (but it is already a See Also). &mdash;  RevRagnarok  Talk Contrib 10:57, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Comcast
Does anyone actually know when Tivo software will be uploaded to Comcast DVRs. The only thing I've heard is it will be available by the end of this year. We are approaching that soon, just wondering if anyone has a heads up.

Here you go: http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2007-10/comcast-tivo-in-the-wild/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.25.39.22 (talk) 14:49, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

subscriptions
I think there should be a clearer YOU NEED A SEPARATE ***CABLE*** SUBSCRIPTION notice in this article. Some think it functions on its own instead of needing additional and separate monthly cable company fees. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.12.116.12 (talk)
 * I don't see how you would get that impression. It's not going to magically pull television signals out of the air. Oh wait... &mdash; RevRagnarok  Talk Contrib 02:16, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * actually, there have been numerous people in the shop thinking that getting a tivo machine and tivo subscription is enough. (granted, their first language often isn't english.) and, i don't think snide comments are considered encyclopædic. =P —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.163.100.14 (talk)
 * It was a snide comment on a talk page, which is fine since it wasn't a personal attack. &mdash; RevRagnarok  Talk Contrib 10:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Mentioning tivoisation
In the controversies section, I wrote a paragraph about the device not running unauthorised kernels. My text was quickly deleted, but I would like to re-add it. The person who deleted my text pointed me to this talk page, but the only relevent negative comment I found was a comment by that same person. And there is one relevent positive comment by someone else suggesting that this topic get a paragraph and a "see main article" link. Here's the text, which is quite short, I would like to re-add:

/===Blocking modifications "Tivoisation"===

Because the software in the tivo is mostly free software is based on the GNU+Linux operating system, users might think that they can modify the software to suit their needs. However, Series2 included a chip that checks for a digital signature in the kernel and refuses to run modified versions. This has been controversial in the free software community and has been one of the motivations for the drafting of version 3 of the GNU General Public License. Gronky 15:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

NPOV
Is the Controversies section really necessary? It's written with quite a strong anti-TiVo bias.

Chrisch 08:58, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Major Rework of Article
This article had a lot of good information, but it didn't flow at all. I revised much of what was the former first part of the article, which talked about the functions of the TiVo DVR, then re-sorted and re-grouped the article to make somewhat more sense, at least to me. I didn't do TOO much revising of text (though the history might indicate otherwise) - with the exception of the first paragraph or two under the former heading "Operation" that needed some cleaning and tightening up, the rest was just a lot of re-sorting. There's still some cleaning up to be done, but this article reads better, to me at least. LoadStar 06:44, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

1999 Availability?
While the first units were sold in April 1999, were these things widely available by then, or still rarities? What sort of price did the first models have? Paul, in Saudi 14:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

In Popular Culture
In K.A. Applegate's children's series Animorphs, an alien named Ax actually invented a Tivo like devise that records all shows on television long before Tivo went to the market. On a recent episode of House, the erasing of a TiVo was used as a form of revenge. 129.137.251.160 15:51, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Confusion
Does everyone seem to think that you can suddenly turn on the TV and start skipping at commercials at will? From my experience with DVRs you have to pause first, right? Should it be added that you have to pause first to enable the fast forward a non saved program? --HPJoker (talk) 02:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

-Correct about that one! :) Btr94 (talk) 02:11, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Original "Lifetime" Subscription
When I purchased two Tivos around 1999, the lifetime subscription was transferable from one hardware platform to another -- in other words, it was tied to the lifetime of the user. They changed the terms quickly and made the service non-transferable. Does anyone have a reference to the original contract and its language? It would be interesting to see the changes in the user agreement over time. Joebarnhart (talk) 02:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

date in first sentence
What does it mean?

TiVo (pronounced tee-voh, IPA: /ˈtiːvoʊ/) is a brand of digital video recorder (DVR) in the United States and Canada (December 7, 2007) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuddle (talk • contribs) 19:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe it was referring to the date TiVo units were first sold in Canada. It definitely didn't belong in the first sentence, though, and I've removed it.  Thanks for pointing this out! —Krellis (Talk) 19:05, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Future Section
As of right now, the "Future" of the devices is current as of Septemeber 2006. The article mentions nothing of the Tivo Series3 and TivoHD boxes. This needs to be fixed...

Btr94 (talk) 02:12, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Some info for possible inclusion: the TivoHD is a series 3 but it is just like the series two with the exception that it cannot remotely control any cable boxes. It has to use cable cards, (one multi or two singles) to receive cable programing. It still can work with antennas and analogue cable signals. It is bigger in size. (same as series 3). It has a blue indicator light for digital downloads added to the front with two red lights for recording indicators. It can completely replace the digital cable boxes. It does not work with any satellite systems though you could manually record with the 480i inputs like s-video and the component videos. It is controlled in the same way as the series 2 but HD programs are automatically recognized as such. There is a lot of info on the silver series 3 Tivo on the Tivo website. We really could use info updates about these new machines. Anyway, just thoughts and suggestions of info on TivoHD machines. UB65 (talk) 15:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

TiVo in popular culture subsection!
I was expecting to see an "in popular culture" subsection in this article. It would be nice to have one, in order to explain the modern cultural impact of the device and the extended use of the verb "to tivo", referring to the act of recording programs in a TiVo, expression which is constantly used on TV, movies, etc. (thus it would also be interesting to list some instances where the expression has been used in the media). Kreachure (talk) 15:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

TiVo name origin
Here's an interview which explains the origin of the name and other alternatives they considered: PVR blog interview with Michael Cronan. I don't know how to integrate this information into the article, but I consider it important and it'd be great if someone would get it in there properly. Kreachure (talk) 15:54, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Need information about how it receives content
The GSoD is the only hint given about the fact that it connects through a telephone line. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.17.83.166 (talk) 14:10, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Rebates don't add up...bad math
"the company recognized $5,000,000 in additional revenue when nearly half of the 100,000 new subscribers to the service failed to successfully apply for a $100 rebate." Hello - 100,000 subscribers x $100 rebate equals $10,000,000, NOT $5,000,000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.198.246.38 (talk)
 * Yes, but "nearly half of the 100,000 new subscribers" equals $5,000,000. [[Image:Tycon.jpg]]Coyoty 19:05, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

As an aside, I fail to see how rebates are a controversy? It seems like a buyer beware kind of thing. I know I fall into the latter category on the rebate field, so I always purchase something that I want at the full price. This is known going into the deal, not something sprung upon you at the last minute. -User:H110Hawk


 * I don't see how this rebate thing is "bad" or worthy of criticism. They offer the rebates, it's not their fault people can't be bothered to fill out the paperwork. 66.240.35.207 01:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

The rebate issue is worthy of criticism because TIVO appears to have acted with bad faith in the issuance of rebates to subscribers. I felt they used deceptive business practices and very very confusing procedures to try not to pay the rebate. I waited more than a year for my rebate and if I had not forced the issue I believe I would have not received my rebate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.230.46 (talk) 05:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

"Pioneer" Clarification
I question the statement in the summary paragraph, calling Tivo "the pioneer of the digital video recorder." Their original main competitor, ReplayTV, was being sold months before Tivo's initial release. Tivo may have had more of an impact on shaping the DVR landscape, but I have to question the validity of saying it was the pioneer. Perhaps it should be reworded to read, "one of the pioneers ..." or "a pioneer..."? Keaven (talk) 19:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey, Keaven, I just took that out completely, because being the pioneer of something means to be the first at it. Maybe I should go insert that kind of statement over at the ReplayTV article.

-But why might TiVo supposedly have had "more of an impact"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.186.134.103 (talk) 09:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Make your own Tivo programs
I like the idea of making messages that will appear while viewing Tivo I think people with kids might like the idea of making do your schoolwork messages or lets think of an idea (like word of the day) to talk about this evening type messages

www.onetruemedia.com lets people make videos then save them as tivo objects I do not know if these personalized tivo programs are globally available or not  It would be nifty if there was a group of parent functional tivo messages you could use if you liked

anyway it seemed worth noting here that you can make your own complimentary Tivo programming —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.237.215.179 (talk) 17:47, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

First Customer Shipment date?
When did TiVo FCS? When did the very first TiVo go on sale? What model was it, what did it look like, what were the specs, and what did it cost? I did some googling but can't seem to nail down the specifics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.163.130.57 (talk)

The first TiVo units were sold or at least shipped on March 31, 1998. The tiny TiVo team worked insane startup hours to ship the first product ahead of their only competitor at the time, ReplayTV, and within the first quarter of 1998 which had been promised to at least investors and possibly the public. March of 1998 also had two full moons, the second of which is sometimes called a "Blue Moon." As a result of the hard work and sacrifice, co-founder and CEO Mike Ramsey declared March 31 to be a company holiday, the "Blue Moon Holiday," which it is to this day (at least it was on March 31, 2006).

It was a plain black box, very similar to the original Philips OEM box, with Lego-like bumps on the top of the case and a small arched badge in the center (unlike the later Philips "Big Brother Eye" which TiVo advised them against). The retail price was something like $599, and required a monthly, yearly, or lifetime subscription on top of that. There may have been two models initially, a 14 GB "14 hour" unit, and a dual-drive "28 or 30 hour" unit. The drives used were Quantum "Bigfoot" 5.25" drives, and the CPU was a 33 or 66 Mhz PowerPC (601?). Keeping up with Live TV (caching at all times) and another playback stream, and a transactional database was only possible with such a modest CPU and single disk because of the TiVo Mediaswitch implemented as an ASIC, and TiVo's Media Filesystem. -- DougEngland

I agree with what DougEngland says except that the drives were Quantum Fireball, not Qauntum Bigfoot. The bigfoots were 1/4 height 5 1/4 inch drives with TERRIBLE reliability. A firmware update had to be created for the bigfoot because downloads from the internet over a slow link (say 56k modem) would cause the hard drive to fail haha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Bigfoot_(hard_drive) Ciper (talk) 23:46, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Reads like an advertisement
This article reads like an advertisement. Did a TiVo rep write it? It certainly doesn't have a NPOV.

66.77.17.14 (talk) 02:27, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * As with seemly every company page, please provide details or corrections (without using a WP:Criticism section) before throwing up an Ad tag. -- KelleyCook (talk) 03:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Can't see the problem myself. Maybe one or two sentences could be adjusted but the article itself seems just fine - not sure what justifies the recent addition of the advert tag. Bonusballs (talk) 19:38, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Tivo Hard Drive
I live in the UK. A few months ago I changed my Virgin Media box to that of the Virgin Media Tivo box. They come in two sizes, a 500Gb box, and a 1Tb box. I have the 1Tb size. These are the internal hard drive sizes. I find there is no need for an external drive. After a recent two-week holiday, all my favourites were recorded as well as dozens of 1hr programs in the Suggestions area. Capacity was still well under 100%

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