Talk:Tiger Woods/Archive 6

last paragraph of Tiger Proofing is just silly
IT is one thing that back then, ignorant people were claiming that courses were lengthening the course to take advantage away from longer hitters like Tiger...but it s another thing for Wikipedia to still be furthering that ignorance in 2015. IT is 100% OPPOSITE of facts. Obviously so. A longer hitter has a MUCH bigger advantage on a longer course. Because they can still reach par 5s in 2, and then can still hit approach shots with shorter, more accurate irons while their shorter hitting opponents have to use long irons. Hitting a 7 iron to the green while your opponents are hitting a 4 iron is a MUCH bigger advantage than hitting a 4 iron while your opponents are hitting a 2 iron.My god...THINK about it! If you could jump higher than most people, wouldn't you want a volleyball net to be higher?

The fact of the matter is, despite what the idiots claimed in the 90s and early 2000s, courses were lengthening their courses for two reasons...1. because ALL players were hitting longer, and 2. because they knew it was BETTER for Tiger an they were trying to entice Tiger to play in their tournaments since he always played a very light schedule. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:D500:3D00:4CB2:BB0E:B7E1:87EB (talk) 22:35, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

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Expansion needed
The article Professional golf career of Tiger Woods needs expanding. It only covers from the beginning to 2012, which is an incomplete picture of his entire career and recent struggles. RF23 (talk) 21:29, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Tiger Woods Jr
Tiger Woods Junior is a wide receiver for the semi pro team in Detroit the Detroit Tigers of the CFMP he has played four seasons with them and was drafted 15th overall by the Tigers coming out of Clemson college he is also the all time NCAA leading receiver in his division — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.99.230.210 (talk) 17:30, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Inconsistency in style noted
Please, regular editors, do a search for "Tiger" in this text. In most cases, it is properly appearing, but in a few cases it is used in a familiar reference to the article's title subject. Please review this, and—while leaving appropriate cases, like quotes, brand references, etc.—remove the times when we come across like sports reporters, and refer to the article subject too familiarly as "Tiger" rather than the standard encyclopedic "Woods" or full name. Cheers, and, as I said, good article, lots of very evident hard work and good editing. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 17:58, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Edits of this date
In being asked by a reader why potentially inflammatory sentences regarding Woods infidelities were not sourced in the Professional career section, I edited:
 * to move up three references already later appearing, to cover the three sentences about the matter as it was summarized (to make compliance to WP:VERIFY in this good article all the clearer),
 * and at the same time, noted that two sources were mentioned in the text, both tabloid, but neither source was explicitly given in the inline citations (and so I tagged conservatively, calling for these two).

After identifying that the US Weekly mention was in fact to Us Weekly, I located and placed that reference, slightly correcting time sequence in text to the source (alleged affair was reported on 1 December, tapes disclosed on 2 December). The National Enquirer reference that is referred to in-text could not be located; one is evident on the 28th, but not on the 25th. While these two are primary sources, they were critical, historically, in the evolution of this media case, and their importance is stated in secondary sources (Reuters, AP reported by Fox), and so providing the citations is important, encyclopedically, if the names of those publications are to remain a part of the encyclopedia article text. (Had Us Weekly and National Enquirer not been mentioned in the text, there would be no need—or call from me—for those to appear as references. But as long as they are mentioned, they should appear.)

Finally, I removed the adjectival modifier "tabloid weekly" from before Natl Enquirer, because (i) it already appears at the provided wikilink, (ii) providing it for this one source is inconsistent in style and general presentation (no descriptive modifiers for Us Weekly, The Washington Post, Fox News, ESPN, etc. mentions), and (iii) it could be perceived as editorial, which is always unnecessary.

I will add one further comment in a separate section, but please reply here with any concerns about these scholarly-directed (one-time, limited interest) edits. Cheers, Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 17:51, 8 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I wonder if we should be using the National Enquirer at all; often, the same concept is covered in the mainstream media and that would give this article more credibility.Peter K Burian (talk) 18:40, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I wonder if we should be using the National Enquirer at all; often, the same concept is covered in the mainstream media and that would give this article more credibility.Peter K Burian (talk) 18:40, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2016
In the "Personal Life" section under "Infidelity scandal and fallout", please mention: Tiger Woods was assaulted with a golf club by Elin Nordegren, when Elin discovered text messages between Tiger & Rachel Uchitel. Tiger tried to flee from the assault but crashed his Escalade vehicle into a fire hydrant. The injuries sustained by Tiger from Elin's assault included nearly losing two teeth, his right cheek bone compressed. Resulted in Tiger having to undergo plastic surgery for the injuries and hospital treatment and miss his own golf tournament. Tiger refused to lay any criminal charges against Elin.

http://debatewise.org/debates/1579-should-elin-nordegren-be-charged-for-assault/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1239225/Tiger-Woodss-wife-Elin-battered-iron-caught-texting-mistress.html

Ted Thorne (talk) 22:00, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * There is a sourcing issue here. Numerous media sources claimed this, but Elin Nordegren denied it, saying "The speculation that I would have used a golf club to hit him is just truly ridiculous." Even The Sun hedges its bets on this by using the weasel wording "it was claimed yesterday" (ie we don't know for sure and don't want to get sued for libel). The Daily Mail article mentioned above also hedges its bets and casts doubt on whether it actually happened. It was Furman Bisher who claimed this in his blog and other media sources reported it. Bisher was a respected sports journalist, but there was a lack of independent confirmation for the claim, which cited an unnamed source. Woods' agent Mark Steinberg told The Sun that Bisher’s claims were "patently false". Due to the WP:BLP issues that this raises, it isn't suitable for the article.-- ♦Ian Ma c  M♦  (talk to me) 05:28, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

majors table
The table showing Woods' record in major tournaments only goes through 2015. It should be updated to 2016. It doesn't matter that he has not played in 2016. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckyoldsun (talk • contribs) 01:57, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


 * It does matter. What if he never plays another major? - are you going to keep adding a string of DNPs? That's why these types of tables don't get updated until the player actually plays a major that year. Tewapack (talk) 02:46, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

TGR
I saw this article today and thought it might be worth adding some of the new information on TGR to the page? Let me know what you guys think. Comatmebro User talk:Comatmebro 04:12, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Lead paragraph regarding his financial prowess?
I don't think earnings or "He has been one of the highest-paid athletes in the world for several years" should be leading the Tiger Woods article, as it's not the main story of his career. It belongs in the lower section of the summary after his accolades. Jordanair30 (talk) 07:59, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Funnily enough that was why I just came here too. My suspicions are that this is a "paid for" article and it is meant to read more like a CV in a sports marketing firm than an entry in an "encyclopedia".  For comparison the page on Tom Watson (golfer) is a much more even affair.86.135.187.231 (talk) 21:35, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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Photo caption
Currently a photo of Woods firing a handgun is captioned: "Woods shoots a handgun during training at a shooting range outside San Diego." I would suggest that unless he is employed in some capacity by an employer that paid for the 'training', the caption should say "Woods shoots a handgun during lessons at a shooting range..." If he's paying for it himself, and not being paid to use the firearm professionally (i.e. military, law enforcement, security, etc.) nor competing (i.e. biathlon) then he's not being 'trained' for anything. 198.161.4.63 (talk) 21:08, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Not sure we need either. I'll delete "during training". Nigej (talk) 21:16, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2017
This article includes two separate references to Tiger Woods's arrest on May 29, 2017. One reference is in a newly created section titled "2017 Arrest." The other is a single sentence at the very end of the article. Change this article by deleting the second reference, and retain the first. Thomas Baines (talk) 17:42, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ One other thing is whether the police mugshot photo is really necessary at the moment, if at all. It does look a bit over the top and rubbing his nose in it, with some WP:NOTNEWS issues. What do others think?-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 18:01, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I suggest deleting the photo. It's presence is out of proportion to the incident. Nigej (talk) 19:08, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Woods denies that alcohol was involved and says that it was "an unexpected reaction to prescribed medication". Whatever it was, there is no need for the article to make a big deal of it at the moment.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 06:33, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Magnolia677
Why do you say my edits are unsourced when I stated they were from Fox News as well as other sources? I stated I didn't know how to put in the reference and assumed someone who did know how would put it in. Why would you use the Telegraph as a source when they quote TMZ, full of false info like he was arrested due to driving erratically, when he was actually asleep. Beaglemix (talk) 21:05, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The following link may help you: Help:Referencing for beginners. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:15, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Legal name Eldrick Tiger Woods?
TMZ has the Jupiter, Florida DUI police report and in it, several times lists his name as "Eldrick Tiger Woods" which also includes a scanned copy of his driver's license stating the same (see: ). Is this enough to warrant a change in the opening sentence to: Eldrick Tiger Woods (born Eldrick Tont Woods; December 30, 1975)as per WP:MOSBIO? --Zimbabweed (talk) 15:51, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Seems ok to me. Nigej (talk) 17:08, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * In one of the videos released,, he states his name as "Eldrick Tont Woods". Tewapack (talk) 18:38, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Woods arrest
On June 19, 2017, Tiger Woods tweeted to fans that he was "receiving professional help" to manage his medications and how he deals with back pain and an undisclosed sleeping disorder. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tullydawg (talk • contribs) 18:41, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Tiger Woods name
Many years ago, Tiger Woods legally changed his name to "Tiger". Your article still lists his name as "Eldrick". I invite you to do the research, which should not take very long.
 * See above "Legal name Eldrick Tiger Woods?" section which notes that he still uses Eldrick himself, so there is clearly some confusion still. Nigej (talk) 10:03, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2017
lets update the personal information on tiger eldrick' woods   D.E. 2601:880:8100:5130:380C:778:89C8:D68B (talk) 22:27, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Sak ura Cart elet   Talk 23:52, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2017
Hi,

We would like to put in an request to update the link to Tiger Wood's official profile on PGATOUR.COM.

The link currently points to: http://www.pgatour.com/players/player.08793.html The link should be updated to: https://www.pgatour.com/players/player.08793.tiger-woods.html

We have recently migrated to HTTPS and will soon be going through efforts to redirect player profile pages to URLs with the player name.

Thanks for your assistance. Pgatourdigital (talk) 15:49, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Symbol wait.svg On hold until one of the links dies. ToThAc (talk) 15:56, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2018
Under Professional Career -> Honors: Change "He was named Associated Press Male Athlete of the Year[136] a record-tying four times, and is the only person to be named Sports Illustrated's Sportsman of the Year more than once." to "He was named Associated Press Male Athlete of the Year[136] a record-tying four times, and one of only two people to be named Sports Illustrated's Sportsperson of the Year more than once." 144.191.148.15 (talk) 19:42, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
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half sister
This page says Royce was born in 1958. Earl Woods' page says 1961. Which is correct? Splinter 9 (talk) 17:28, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

2018 Tournament Finishes and Earnings
When will a new row be added to the "PGA Tour career summary" table for 2018?

So far, 8 starts, 7 cuts made, 0 wins, 2 top 10, 3 top 25, $1,428,327 earnings, http://www.espn.com/golf/player/_/id/462/tiger-woods Jwh6ux (talk) 03:15, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Generally these sort of things are best added at the end of the seaosn. Nigej (talk) 05:49, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Young picture
Can we get a picture of him when he started winning majors on here e.g. https://image.oregonlive.com/home/olive-media/width960/img/golf_news/photo/tiger-woods-1997-masters-cbba40ca9ce29778.jpg
 * It's probably copyrighted. Nigej (talk) 08:07, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2018
I have noticed on his personal details it lists his height as 6ft 1 185cm, with a reference to the USPGA. I have read various interviews online where Woods has stated he is 6ft. For Example In the NY Times, in 2009 he said, "If you look at it, guys are getting bigger and stronger. People forget that. When Jack and Gary and Arnold played, and Hogan, they're all about 5-9. I'm 6 foot and I'm the shortest guy in the top players of the world", and he has said that height back in the same paper in 2001, "I'm a 6-foot guy chasing a little white ball.".He has consistently during his career said 6ft as his height: "Here I am six foot, and I'm considered short at six foot. Most of the guys now are 6'3", 6'2", 6'4" Just like every other sport, it's evolved". As they are direct quote's from Tiger himself shall I put up the references so his height can be changed to 6'0? 86.138.189.162 (talk) 13:17, 23 September 2018 (UTC) 86.138.189.162 (talk) 13:17, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * ❌. Tiger Woods rounding his height off in a throwaway mention is not as reliable as the official PGA stats . Fish +Karate 14:27, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Native American Ancestry
The sole citation listed for the claim that he has native American ancestry is footnote 26, a reference to an obituary for Earl Woods, nowhere there can see I see a claim for native American ancestry.HealthLibrarian (talk) 14:01, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Order of majors results.
With the PGA moving to May should the results timeline reflect being played 2nd starting in 2019. Tomrtn (talk) 03:06, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * See discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Golf/Archive 6. Tewapack (talk) 06:08, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


 * thanks Tomrtn (talk) 01:51, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2019
Change "He is 14–1 when going into the final round of a major with at least a share of the lead" to "He is 14–0 when going into the final round of a major with at least a share of the lead" because he has never lost a major when he has had a share of the lead. He has won all 14 majors that he has had a share of the lead going into the final round. The only exception is that the 2019 masters was won when HE WAS NOT a part of the lead, so his record is still 14-0. Dosalover (talk) 18:50, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 19:01, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The article is correct: The "1" refers to the 2009 PGA Championship where Woods led by 2 shots after 54 holes - but ended up finishing in second place. Stanley Oliver (talk) 01:15, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2019
In the PGA Tour career summary table, the totals for his career bottom line still only lists 14 majors instead of 15 69.118.77.109 (talk) 03:07, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thats because the summary only includes up to 2018. I think this is updated at the end of each season. Jopal22 (talk) 13:53, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2019
In the Results timeline of Major Championships 2019 results should be grouped with the other results of the 2010s, not in its own group below. Golfrumors (talk) 05:51, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The new row for 2019 in the Results timeline section of Tiger Woods is because of the new order of the majors from 2019 (the PGA Championship being 2nd not 4th). This was discussed here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Golf/Archive_6 where it was agreed to follow this approach. It might look a bit odd at the moment but after the PGA Championship it will have the merit of showing the Majors in chronological order. Nigej (talk) 06:55, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Edit Requested
In the "Personal Life" section, in the subheading "2017 Arrest" the article reads, "On May 29, 2017, Woods was arrested near his Jupiter Island, Florida, home by the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office at about 3:00 am. EDT for driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs." This is factually incorrect, as Woods was arrested by Officer Christopher Fandry (Badge #1182) of the Jupiter Police Department, under their agency offense report case number of 17-002626. 46.244.28.12 (talk) 20:11, 16 April 2019 (UTC)


 * ✅ Thank you, -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 20:16, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2019
Woods has broken numerous golf records. He has been World Number One for the most consecutive weeks and for the greatest total number of weeks of any golfer. He has been awarded PGA Player of the Year a record eleven times and has won the Byron Nelson Award for lowest adjusted scoring average a record eight times. Woods has the record of leading the money list in ten different seasons. He has won 15 professional major golf championships (trailing only Jack Nicklaus, who leads with 18) and 81 PGA Tour events (second all time behind Sam Snead, who won 82). Woods leads all active golfers in career major wins and career PGA Tour wins. He is the youngest player to achieve the career Grand Slam, and is only the second golfer (after Nicklaus) to have achieved a career Grand Slam three times. Woods has won 18 World Golf Championships.

Please include in this article that Woods will receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom

Woods has broken numerous golf records. He has been World Number One for the most consecutive weeks and for the greatest total number of weeks of any golfer. He has been awarded PGA Player of the Year a record eleven times and has won the Byron Nelson Award for lowest adjusted scoring average a record eight times. Woods has the record of leading the money list in ten different seasons. He has won 15 professional major golf championships (trailing only Jack Nicklaus, who leads with 18) and 81 PGA Tour events (second all time behind Sam Snead, who won 82). Woods leads all active golfers in career major wins and career PGA Tour wins. He is the youngest player to achieve the career Grand Slam, and is only the second golfer (after Nicklaus) to have achieved a career Grand Slam three times. Woods has won 18 World Golf Championships.

On May 2, 2019, it was announced that Woods will receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Woods, who will receive the Medal on May 6, 2019,  will become the fourth golfer to achieve this honor. 2601:447:4101:5780:2C89:DC6E:ADA1:7295 (talk) 21:49, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done I've added him receiving the award; I left out the announcing of him receiving the award though, it's unimportant in the long run. NiciVampireHeart 10:00, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

World Golf Championships section
Can we delete the "World Golf Championships" section (wins + results timeline) ? The contents are duplicated in List of career achievements by Tiger Woods. Keeping the majors in the main article makes sense, given their importance, but I think the WGCs can just be left in the subsidiary article. Nigej (talk) 15:20, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Guinness Book of Records
The citation for the 17 records that Woods is said to have recorded in the Guinness Book of Records is simply a log-in page for that website. A search at that website showed only a small number of records for Woods, far less than 17. Worse, the edit that added the section was based on original research - the editor states, as part of that edit, that he/she was comparing what he/she found by doing repeated searches for different people.

I've removed the entire section. Any records that Woods has that are not already included in this article, elsewhere, should be at List of career achievements by Tiger Woods. And if there is in fact a WP:RS that says that Woods has the third-highest list of Guinness World Records, then that should be at the List article, not here. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 02:45, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2020
please add to professional golf "After a 6-month hiatus from professional golf, Tiger racked up three solid performances including a T-37th at the PGA championship in August of 2020"Thelegend13 (talk) 01:31, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Melmann 08:24, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2020
Died 2601:845:8100:3A0:5550:1753:D48B:F7AC (talk) 22:49, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  Wiki Macaroons Cinnamon? 11:15, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

2013 Season
Could some of the information on the 2013 season be moved to the Professional golf career of Tiger Woods wikipedia page and the amount on this page per cut down to be reflective of the amount of information for other years. What does exist may need to be expanded to be include with the Professional golf career of Tiger Woods wikipedia page.

Split with Butch Harmon
Suggest that the split with Butch Harmon be dated at August, 2002. There are many references to this date, such as

http://www.espn.com/golf/usopen04/news/story?id=1824929

There were apparently some phone conversations between the two men after the split, but in terms of working together on the practice tee there was very little after August 2002.

The story line of Tiger's swing coaches and swing changes is one of the most important parts of Tiger's career. The current article says Tiger and Butch worked together until 2004. After the August 2002 split, Tiger in 2003 and 2004 won zero majors and "only" 6 tournaments, including only 1 tournament in 2004. Tiger hired Hank Haney in 2004, and had some excellent years after that.

The way the article is written now with the 2004 end date for Tiger-Butch, a reader could conclude that Tiger split with Butch because he was frustrated with his record in 03 and 04, when actually he split with Butch after a great 2002, with 5 tournament wins including 2 majors.

One of the great mysteries of Tiger's career is why would he split with his swing coach at the height of success? Here is a very good article in case the editors of this page want to go further. This article attributes Tiger's desire to change his swing to the discovery of damage to his ACL during minor knee surgery in 2002:

http://www.golfdigest.com/story/jaime_diaz_truthabouttiger_gd0501

Tiger Woods sued for wrongful death
A contribution suggestion on the topic of Tiger Woods being sued by the family of a young man who worked in his restaurant for wrongful death after the man was killed in a single-car wreck in Martin County, FL, after drinking heavily for three hours after his shift had ended.

On December 10th, 2018, a 24-year old man Nicholas Immesberger was killed in a single-car wreck in Martin County, FL. . Immesberger was a bartender at Tiger Woods' flagship restaurant, The Woods, located in Jupiter, FL. On Tuesday, May 14th, 2019, the parents of Nicholas Immesberger filed a wrongful death lawsuit in Palm Beach County against Tiger Woods, girlfriend and restaurant manager Erica Herman, and The Woods restaurant for negligence. The lawyers who filed the lawsuit, Craig M. Goldenfarb and Spencer T. Kuvin in West Palm Beach, held a press conference to announce the lawsuit, which claims that under Florida's Dram Shop law, the Defendants had a duty to not over-serve Immesberger, because they had personal knowledge that Immesberger struggled with alcohol addiction. In the press conference, the lawyers content that on many occasions, the managers at The Woods would allow Immesberger to sit for hours on end getting drunk at the bar following his daytime shifts, and on days that he was not working. They cite several facts that tie both Tiger and Erica to Nick personally, including the fact that Erica had personally recruited Nick to work at the bar, and the fact that Tiger and Erica had been drinking with Immesberger at the bar, having witnessed Immesberger become extremely intoxicated, just a few nights before he died. There was also a claim that videotape footage of Immesberger drinking at the bar on the day he died had been deliberately deleted by an unknown employee of the restaurant. On the day he died, Immesberger had a blood alcohol content of .256, more than three times the legal limit, after reportedly drinking at The Woods bar for three hours past his work shift, all according to the press conference.

Later that same day, Tiger addressed the media regarding the lawsuit against him by saying (quote): "We're all very sad that Nick (Immesberger) passed away. It was a terrible night, a terrible ending, and just...we feel bad for him and his entire family. It's very sad." The quote indicates that indeed, Tiger knew Immesberger personally.

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2020
please add to professional golf "After a 6-month hiatus from professional golf, Tiger racked up three solid performances including a T-37th at the PGA Championship in August of 2020. references: https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/29629300/tiger-woods-finds-putter-feels-good-final-round https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2899462-tiger-woods-announces-return-to-pga-tour-at-memorial-tournament" Thelegend13 (talk) 16:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Not a suitable tone, please make it send less promotional. — Yours, Berrely  • Talk∕Contribs 18:28, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2020
Equipment part has to be changed. Tiger Woods uses the Taylormade SIM driver with 9degrees of loft. He has also changed his irons to P7TW with True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Shafts and Golf Pride Tour Velvet Full Cord Grips. He also changed his wedges to Taylormade Milled Grind 2 (TW Grind Edition). Rahmananas511 (talk) 15:44, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Please change Rahmananas511 (talk) 15:45, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 16:15, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Only Golfer To Win Four Consecutive Majors?
If Tiger Woods is the only golfer to win four consecutive majors, how does that reconcile with Bobby Jones being the only golfer to win a Grand Slam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_(golf)? Isn't that by definition four consecutive major wins since he won all four in a single year?

This article and List of career achievements by Tiger Woods [|List of career achievements by Tiger Woods] both mention Tiger Woods being the only golfer to win four consecutive major championships.

Evolross (talk) 02:03, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The difference is that Bobby Jones' Grand Slam didn't consist of the same tournaments as the current definition of a Grand Slam. In 1930, Jones was considered to have won a Grand Slam by virtue of winning the U.S. Open, the U.S. Amateur, the British Open, and the British Amateur, which he did win in the same year. The Masters didn't exist yet (because Jones himself didn't start it until 1934), and the PGA Championship was not as significant then. The modern definition of the Grand Slam -- the Masters, the U.S. Open, the British Open, and the PGA Championship -- didn't become accepted until 1960 or so. Jones did have four consecutive major wins, but not based on what are currently considered the major tournaments. Woods is the only person to win four consecutive majors for the current lineup of majors, but not all in the same year. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 22:05, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 February 2021
Jaws of life was not used 2601:843:4100:2F70:E9F2:E2F0:7E65:9239 (talk) 21:39, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. J850NK (talk) 21:47, 23 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I have made the change, seeing it myself in multiple sources, particularly:, , Thanks, EDG 543 (message me) 22:21, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes I saw it in multiple sources as wellEliteArcher88 (talk) 23:19, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Edit Request
On the car crash, there are quotation marks around serious. Not sure why, but can someone please change it? I don't have the permission yet Daeditboi (talk) 02:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * They're not scare quotes, they're literal quotes, same as "sustained major damage" in the next sentence. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 03:19, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 March 2021
Mr. Woods has been moved from UCLA Harborview to another Los Angeles-area hospital, Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, to continue his rehabilitation. 76.16.47.132 (talk) 15:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 17:16, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

"Coaches and Swing Changes" Section?
I think it would be interesting to have a "Coaches and Swing Changes" section. This has been a major theme in Tiger's career and is lightly covered in the article. I'm volunteering to chip away at it, it would be a fair amount of work to do it properly with all the right refs. Obviously don't want to do the work if there are objections or I can't edit the article because it's in a protected state.

There is a lot of material in the Haney book that would even apply to the Butch years. After Haney it will be harder but many notables commented on the swing changes up to the present.

Comments? Bluepost22 (talk) 17:11, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Middle name Tiger?
According to the police accident report obtained by TMZ, via NY Post it lists his full name as Eldrick Tiger Woods. If no one objects I will be changing the article as per WP:MOSBIO. --Zimbabweed (talk) 20:16, 8 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Middle name is "Tont" per birth certificate cited in Sounes book Wicked Game. Tewapack (talk) 22:25, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, in divorce papers here. Tewapack (talk) 22:49, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Is it possible he legally changed his name? I am currently looking for more sources. --Zimbabweed (talk) 00:19, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * A cop's entry on an accident report is not a very definitive source at all. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106; &#x1D110;&#x1d107; 02:05, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Tiger proofing
It never is good when a Wikipedia article is so ignorant like this. Lengthening courses does not remove the advantage from long hitters. Quite obviously so, it givens them MORE of an advantage. Just common sense that a course that plays to your strength will be better for you. And obviously, a course where the shorter hitters are hitting a 6 iron on their second shot while the longer hitters hit 8 iron is better for them than a longer course where they are hitting a 3 iron to their opponents 6 iron. MUCH bigger difference in accuracy/control between a 3 and 6 iron and a 6 and 8 iron. The term "Tiger proofing" was made up by race baiters out of sheer ignorance. Courses desperately WANTED Tiger to play their tournaments. Since it obviously meant more fans and more money. And since Tiger always played a very reduced schedule, basically playing the majors, the Players and WGCs and then whatever tournament were sponsored by companies he had deals with, tournaments bent over backwards to make their course MORE enticing to Tiger. And THAT is why they lengthened their courses. To make it BETTER for Tiger. Because again, plain old common sense should tell you that longer courses favor longer hitters, just as courses with narrow fairways and deep rough favor more accurate hitters. 69.112.239.6 (talk) 02:50, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia doesn't speculate about the impact of what the management of a course is doing. It's not "ignorant". We are a tertiary source, and as such we write with prose that is supported largely by secondary sources, as the passage you are complaining about has done. If you can find sources that make this article less "ignorant", by all means please provide them in the article supporting prose that contradicts what is already said, or post them here on the talk page and we can do it for you. --Hammersoft (talk) 03:09, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Allegation not supported by evidence
the section on 2021 car crash says that Woods was speeding. The articles linked to this statement do not say he was speeding. They say that that stretch of road sometimes has accidents due to speeding, but not that Woods was speeding. 2A00:23C4:506:C801:415E:6FAD:6061:DA91 (talk) 07:32, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm confused by your comment. This reference https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-04-07/la-county-sherriff-says-speeding-caused-tiger-woods-crash (ref 246 currently) says "Tiger Woods was speeding when he crashed an SUV in Southern California less than two months ago, authorities said Wednesday." etc. Nigej (talk) 07:39, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Can we explain the meaning of Eldrick?
Wikipedia doesn't have a separate article about the name, and apparently he is the only notable Eldrick.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  22:13, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It's the same name as Ælfric and Eldridge, among others. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107; 04:11, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Which is not explained anywhere in this article. And the meaning is not explained in those articles either.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  19:00, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 * No particular reason it should be; we don't in general discuss the meaning of people's given names. The article states that it was chosen because it starts with E; is there any WP:RS discussing the name and it's meaning in context of Woods' parents choosing it for him? --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107; 14:07, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Even if it's left out of this article, there ought to be something on Wikipedia explaining the name. Since "Eldrick" redirects here, that would seem to be the place to start.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  16:23, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Good idea. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107; 16:35, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the sources I found have these cutesy names that make me bout they'll be accepted as sources. So when trying to create a stub article from scratch, that's not helpful.


 * What would really help is if one of those related names had something.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  16:46, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2022
Change birthplace from Cypress, California to Los Angeles County, California.

REASON: A simple check of the free California Birth Index will show that Eldrick T Woods, Tiger's legal name, was born in Los Angeles County on 30 Dec 1975.

Source: https://www.californiabirthindex.org/birth/eldrick_t_woods_born_1975_12791867

Cypress is in Orange County, as even the city's Wikipedia page identifies. It has alwats been part of said county. No hospital has ever existed within the city limits. On 30 Dec 1975, the three closest Orange County hospitals to the Cypress family home would have been Anaheim General (Anaheim; defunct; now Anaheim Community/OC Behavioral Health), Katella/Midwood Community (Stanton; defunct and no longer standing), and Lincoln Community (Buena Park; defunct and no longer standing). 2600:1012:B1BC:66BA:6122:4C7A:8953:714E (talk) 04:12, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. -  FlightTime Phone  ( open channel ) 04:14, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2022
Change "For the record, he is one-quarter Thai, one-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Caucasian, one-eighth African American and one-eighth Native American." to "Woods is one-fourth black, one-fourth Thai, one-fourth Chinese, one-eighth white and one-eighth American Indian." because this is the actual quote from the source linked in the article.

However, the reality is closest to this which should be reflected. "He is African American, one-quarter Thai, one-quarter Caucasian, part Chinese, and part Native American."

Sources come from Earl Woods wikipedia page and the fact that his mother was of African and European ancestry, indicating Earl Woods is likely 3/4 African American (1/2 from his father and 1/4 from his mother) meaning Tiger is 3/8 African American. Having so many fractions is confusing, so I have suggested the wording above. Noting the Chinese and Native American ancestry through Earl Woods is so far undocumented.

The sources available suggest Kultida Woods is 1/2 Thai, 1/4 Chinese, 1/4 Caucasian (Dutch). This confirms Tiger Woods is 1/4 Thai, 1/4 Caucasian (1/4 Kultida and 1/4 Earl), but given Earl's Chinese ancestry is undetermined Tiger's is undetermined (minimum 1/8 through Kultida). Bhamdito (talk) 01:02, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: As there's really no way to find out the exact ethnic admixture, I think using a quote is probably the safest way to handle it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:07, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Change made
 * The issue was that the citation, which referred to an article about Tiger's appearance on an Oprah show, wasn't the source for the ESPN quote. (Worst, the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal article that was cited contains a completely different ethnic breakdown.)
 * I've now added a citation for the ESPN article and a quotation mark to show the end of the ESPN quote.
 * (However, note I think the last two sentences really could be deleted as they add very little to the paragraph, which already sets out Woods' ethnic background.) ash (talk) 13:32, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 September 2022
Change GF to QF under the Career Achievements tab for the 1999 WGC Matchplay. 161.23.52.215 (talk) 00:00, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks. Nigej (talk) 04:27, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Tiger Woods age
Wikipedia has Tiger born in 1975 but listed as 46 years old. 🤔 2600:8801:225:DC00:6DD2:2F9F:EDE4:C34 (talk) 02:40, 17 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes, his birthday is December 30. --jpgordon&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107; 04:41, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2023
Second sentence in “Background and family” section. Suggested revised sentence: “He is their only child, though he has two half-brothers and a half-sister from his father's first marriage.”

(Added a comma and conjunctive phrase to make sentence grammatically correct). 2600:4040:253C:5500:1D97:E0F9:9563:FA40 (talk) 17:47, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Done. Nigej (talk) 18:01, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Tiger won the 2008 US Open. You have him as T4


Tiger won the 2008 US Open. You have him as T4 14.202.233.22 (talk) 08:09, 9 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Not clear what you're referring to. In the results timelines he is down as the winner. Nigej (talk) 17:26, 9 March 2023 (UTC)