Talk:Tiglath-Pileser III

Text from 1911 Britannica
was a successful general who usurped the Assyrian throne on the 13th of Iyyar 745 B~C., after the fall of the older dynasty, and changed his name of Pulu (Pul) to that of the famous conqueroi~ of earlier times. In Babylonia, however, he continued to be known as Pulu. He was a man of great ability, both military and adniinistrative, and initiated a new system of policy in Assyria which he aimed at making the head of a centralized empire, bound together by a bureaucracy who derived their power from the king. The empire was supported by a standing army and an elaborate system of finance. The first task of Tiglath-Pileser was to reduce the Aramaean tribes to order, and so win the gratitude of the Baby- lonian priests. Then he struck terror into the wild tribes on the eastern frontiers of the ki~gdom by a campa~gn which ex tended into the remotest parts of Media. Next came the defeat of a northern coalition headed by Sar-duris of Ararat, no fCwer than 72,950 of the enemy being captured along with the city of Arpad, where the Assyrian king received the homage of various Syrian princes. Arpad revolted soon afterwards, but after a siege was taken in 740 B.c. The following year Azari~h of Judah appears among the enemies of Tiglath-Pileser, who had overthrown his Hamathite allies and annexed the nineteen districts of Hamath. The conquered populations were now transported to distant parts of theempire. In 737 B.c. Tiglath-Pileser again marched into Media, and in 735 he invaded Ararat and -wasted the country round the capital Van to a distance of 450 miles. In 734 n.e. he was called to the help of Yahu-khazi (Ahaz) of Judah, who had been attacked by Pekah of Israel and Rezon (Rasun) of Damascus. Rezon, defeated in battle, fled to his capital which was at once invested by the Assyrians, while with another portion of his army Tiglath-Pileser ravaged Syria and overran the kingdom of Samaria. Ammon, Moab, Edom and the queen of Sheba sent tribute, and Teima in northern Arabia was captured by the Assyrian troops. In 732 B.C. Damascus fell; Rezon was put to death, and an Assyrian satrap appointed in his stead. Tyre also was made tributary. The next year Tiglath-Pileser entered Babylonia, but it was not until 729 B.c. that the Cha]daean prince Ukin-zer (Chinzirus) was driven from Babylon and Tiglath-Pileser acknowledged as its legitimate ruler. In the early part of Tebet 727 B.C. he died, after having built two palaces, one at Nineveh, the other at Calah. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rich Farmbrough (talk • contribs)


 * Thanks, but please note that the 1911 Britannica is nearly a century out of date! -- ChrisO 17:26, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Map
The map shows areas in green supposedly conquered by Tiglath-Pileser; it includes Juda as well as the area up to the Persian Gulf. Is this correct? I thought, Juda was never actually conquered by the Assyrians, but only later by the Babylonians. --Proofreader (talk) 11:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, there is actually another map available, showing the detail you mentioned, that Judah was spared from being incorporated into the Assyrian Empire (compare below). --HYC (talk) 03:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * This is true, Juda was never officially conquered by the Assyrians. I'll change the map to the appropriate one. Thanks for bringing this up, Proofreader. --Šarukinu (talk) 14:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

What does "officially" mean in this context? What citation is there for this claim? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.60.197.251 (talk) 00:35, 19 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Upon reviewing this map, I just noticed that it doesn't exactly deal with the time of Tiglath-Pileser III. We need a map that is more specific to his reign. Let us leave the map that is there for now, and we'll substitute it with a more appropriate candidate once it is found. --Šarukinu (talk) 14:31, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Just to provide a very important update on the captivity of Judah with regard to these comments above. You are all wrong, most of Judah WAS taken captive by Assyria and ONLY Jerusalem itself was spared. However, this captivity was NOT under Tiglath-Pileser, but rather a different Assyrian king (king Sennacherib). This is outlined clearly in the Hebrew Bible if you read 2 Kings 18:13 "Now in the fourteenth year of king Hezekiah did Sennacherib king of Assyria come up against all the fenced cities of Judah, and took them." These verses go on to explain that only Jerusalem itself could not be defeated. Therefore the 10 tribes of Israel in the north, as well as MOST of the tribe of Judah in the region of Judea in the south (excluding Jerusalem, the capital) was taken by Assyria. Jerusalem itself was taken some time later by Babylon.--105.237.247.201 (talk) 22:01, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Consistent name
The person whom this article is about should be referred to by a consistent name. Or, if he changed his name at some point, this should be explained.

At present, the fourth paragraph in this article tells the history of someone named "Pulu", but there is no indication who this person is. I'm guessing it's an alternate name for Tiglath-Pileser?

The sixth paragraph indicates that Tiglath-Pileser assumed the name Pulu when he was crowned king. This contradicts the fourth paragraph, which discusses a person who was already named Pulu before he seized the throne.

I don't want to try to fix it myself because I don't know what the actual story is. &mdash; Lawrence King ( talk ) 21:30, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

First standing army?
The article tells us that he created the first professional standing army in history. Yet on the wiki page about standing armies, where there is a short history of them, the Assyrians are not even mentioned. It tells us the first one was in Sumer in the 3rd millennium BC, then jumps right to the Ottomans. One of the two articles needs amending. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.79.41 (talk) 14:13, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Sumer was probably the first. I've amended this one and sourced it. Doug Weller  talk 14:31, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

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