Talk:TikTok/Archive 1

Contested deletion
This page is not unambiguously promotional, because I am writing about the marketing of this video which IS NOT marketing or intended to promote this video. as you can see from the references this approach is of academic and popular interest and has been covered by notable sources. I am a newbie on Wikipedia but I hope that you will assist as my purpose here is to share my research about Marketing and not to DO marketing. --Y.Jiao95 (talk) 13:43, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Deletion reason
WP:NOTAD, WP:OR. Fails WP:GNG and WP:N. The creator has been indef blocked before. 2A02:C7F:963F:BA00:35A9:1579:6BFD:67FF (talk) 17:01, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The article was created by User:Y.Jiao95, whose block has now been lifted. I've removed the AFD template from the article for now, as it was not listed for deletion correctly per WP:AFD, and the anonymous editor who added it is now asking around for advice on whether to use WP:PROD instead. The Mighty Glen (talk) 17:17, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Please don't re-add the AFD template again. If you're desperate to take this to AFD, then you'll need to create an account, so that the required AFD discussion can be created, and the article discussed. The Mighty Glen (talk) 17:55, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you remove this message as i don't want it? 2A02:C7F:963F:BA00:35A9:1579:6BFD:67FF (talk) 18:00, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * , the IP followed the directions for a non-registered user to nominate an article for deletion (not discussion). See WP:AFDHOW. ~ GB fan 18:27, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, anon ed and I have already discussed at my talk page, and I've restored the template with an apology. The Mighty Glen (talk) 18:34, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I have removed it again, as they removed their request at WT:AFD and stated above that they don't want it. ~ GB fan 18:35, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I see they have reinstated it. I have completed the nomination.  ~ GB fan 18:38, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and I guess that's what I should have done, once the anon ed had pointed out my error on policy. The Mighty Glen (talk) 19:49, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2018
Very minor, but under "History", but put the first reference (seventh one of the entire article) after the comma instead of before. 109.225.98.60 (talk) 17:46, 11 November 2018 (UTC)


 * ✅, thanks for pointing it out. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 18:00, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2018
I want to add something such as the factors for success of TikTok, and controversies and criticisms for TikTok. Please permit me to edit this term. These sections which I want to add into this term. 5. The factors for success of TikTok According to the analysis of Linkfluence’s social analysts, there are four factors can help TikTok so dominant in 2018. Firstly, TikTok targets a young but diverse audience. Secondly, the investors with eyes on the international market. Thirdly, short format, easy user interface, and lots of customization options make TikTok more attractive. Fourthly, built-in marketing tactics attract consumer brands. [1] 6. Controversies and criticisms Popular video clips are often copied over and over, resulting in less original, and lower quality video clips on the platform. There are also claims that TikTok contains information inappropriate for underage users. Although most of TikTok ‘s users are between age 18 to 24, many are still minors, leading to questions of social decency, a problem that has crippled other Chinese social networks in the past.” [1] 6.1 Web-addiction As of the end of October 2018, the number of daily active users on TikTok and active users was a stable 200 million and the number of monthly active user even reached 400 million. [2] According to a survey from Bianews, more than twelve percent people spend more than two hours on TikTok. [3] More and more people show that they indulge in TikTok and consume a huge amount of time to browse these meaningless videos. 6.2 Uncivilized phenomenon There are some offensive videos in TikTok, and these videos lead to the uncivilized phenomenon occur repeatedly, such as those showing drunk people, scribbling on walls, challenging police officers and so on. People tend to imitate these offensive and uncivilized behaviors to attract others’ attention. For example, in 2018, two tourists aged 17 and 20 years old, turned themselves into the local police station after their videos on TikTok went viral and triggered widespread social media outrage. TikTok has deleted related video clips, which showed them damaging a historical landform, known as Zhangye National Geopark in China's Gansu province, along with one of them bragging to the camera saying, "I damaged the landform which was formed 6,000 years ago. We sneaked into this area and it feels awesome."[4] 6.3 Mental health Chinese parents have raised concerns about TikTok because TikTok contains information inappropriate for underage users who don’t build their strong values. Some portents even complained that their children are forming distorted values from TikTok. 6.3.1 “Qu Shaoyun” event On 2018 June 6th, there were something that insulted Chinese hero Qu Shaoyun appeared on TikTok. This attention-seeking video didn’t teach the minors to respect the hero who sacrificed himself for his country but expressed a wrong view that we can make fun of heroic deeds. On 2018 July, TikTok was instructed to stop publish illegal advertisements and was fined one million by Beijing Administration for Industry and Commerce because this behavior violated the Article 22 of the Protection of Heroes and Martyrs and the Article 9 of the advertising law. [5] In addition, the famous Chinese newspaper People’s Daily editorialized: “Not every apology will be forgiven. Advertising must insist on the correct value orientation so that TikTok can avoid making this mistake.” [6] 6.3.2 “Wen wan” event Wen wan, who soared to popularity in 2018 at age 17 with her video “Gucci Gucci Prada Prada”, was called “the first Internet celebrity”. In just a few days, her follower count reached 12 million. [7] However, this girl was exposed scandals. Firstly, Wen wan experienced a series of facelifts to keep her face looking beautiful. Secondly, as a juvenile, she dropped out of school but chose to go to the nightclub. Although amid all the negative news, Wen wan still was regarded as idol in lots of teenagers’ eyes because these teenagers are so young that cannot distinguish right from wrong. They admire Internet celebrity’s “success”, and someone even think it is a waste of time to go to school. In this aspect, TikTok are distorting values so silent. [8]

Reference： [1] https://linkfluence.com/douyin-tik-tok-has-taken-asia-by-storm-can-it-last/ [2] http://www.donews.com/news/detail/1/3026464.html?from=groupmessage&isappinstalled=0 [3] https://www.sohu.com/a/228229432_115060 [4] https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/19/short-video-apps-like-douyin-tiktok-are-dominating-chinese-screens.html [5] https://www.guancha.cn/politics/2018_11_14_479663.shtml [6] https://www.sohu.com/a/235497119_700152 [7] http://www.sohu.com/a/233770965_623785 [8] https://www.sohu.com/a/235620093_162785 Wang Zhuofan (talk) 05:46, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Its hard to understand what changes you would like made, in the form they are currently presented. DannyS712 (talk) 07:06, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Merge with Musical.ly?
Shouldn't this page be merged with Musical.ly? -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:24, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Undo?
curprev 06:55, 25 August 2018‎ Neo-Jay talk contribs‎ 37 bytes +37‎  Neo-Jay moved page TikTok (app) to TikTok: no need to add app for disambiguation thank Tag: New redirect
 * Really? In ictu oculi (talk) 16:19, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 April 2019
On The language list

All of these needs to have blue links to the articles on the languages Arabic, Bengali, Burmese, Cebuano, English, French, German, Gujarati, Hindi, Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Javanese, Kannada, Korean, Malay, Malayalam, Marathi, Oriya, Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, Russian, Simplified Chinese, Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog, Tamil, Telugu, Thai, Traditional Chinese, Turkish, Ukrainian, Vietnamese

I have COI with the owner of Tik Tok (ByteDance) Prllc (talk) 16:47, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: per MOS:OVERLINK which states that major languages typically are not linked. These are all languages that rank highly at List of languages by number of native speakers. If there are specific languages you feel need to be linked, or a reason you think that all languages should be linked, please reopen this request with more information. Thanks, &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 18:30, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2019
I think Tiktok is a Social Media App. TowerPizza 02:45, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sam Sailor 09:56, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Edit request
Just a suggestion. Lisa & Lena left the app and should be removed from the Most followed accounts on TikTok section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.50.133.26 (talk) 18:07, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- CptViraj (📧) 13:51, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Tiktok
Negative impacts of tik tok Sudhagani yellaiah Goud (talk) 12:34, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Languages
The application has been translated into Greek Giorgos Ly (talk) 19:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅: It's look like you have done it by yourself -- CptViraj (📧) 15:13, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Edit Request
Under the "Trend" section there is the sub-heading "Most followed accounts on TikTok". It should be moved below the "Top Accounts" section. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.55.30.173 (talk) 18:29, 22 August 2019 (UTC)


 * –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 18:59, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2019
Add the Chinese name 抖音短视频 as Tik tok is a Chinese company 2600:8805:8800:9AF:DF4:7EA9:5E01:DA2E (talk) 12:05, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Douyin (抖音) is already included in the introduction and below the infobox – Thjarkur (talk) 14:00, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Agree all tearms Deepakyadav7011 (talk) 14:36, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

"Reception" paragraph(s)
I think that the "Reception" paragraph(s) should be moved to below the "Top accounts" section because readers should have context before reading about the app's reception. Lutein678 (talk) 13:42, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

est on 8 December 2019
2405:204:A5A7:6DA4:B0E0:D32E:433E:366D (talk) 09:47, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2019
42.109.224.58 (talk) 14:32, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:09, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2019
71.241.217.31 (talk) 01:24, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
 * ❌ as you have not stated what changes you want to be made to the article. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:42, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion
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United Arab Emirates
Is the government of the United Arab Emirates using TikTok as a spying tool? If so, this information seems notable, and should be added to this article. 66.213.33.2 (talk) 00:11, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Do you have a reliable source? -- Thegooduser  Life Begins With a Smile :)  🍁 01:34, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

I responded to a user about my article.
I do not see any prior critiques of this article, but I see room to create a more globalized perspective. There is a heavy focus on TikTok in relation to China, while a lack of focus on the app's overall culture. Tug99021 (talk) 04:44, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Moved Douyin most-followed users to List of most-followed TikTok accounts because they are the same service
Douyin is the original name of TikTok; it was rebranded as TikTok for international users and run on different servers to comply with legal restrictions. They have the same interface and logo, as well as the same owner, ByteDance. It is not just a "rip-off" of TikTok-- it IS TikTok, but run on different servers. In fact, Wikipedia redirects you to TikTok when you type in "Douyin". Lutein678 (talk) 07:58, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2020
In the "Legal issues" section, please add the following subsection

Deaths cuased by TikTok
According to the "TikTok Death tracker" website, as of 26th March 2020 there have been at least 48 documented deaths of TikTok users, including 38 in India alone, while making TikTok videos. 58.182.176.169 (talk) 12:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Had to make some little changes, but it's ✅. -- Key a com  (💬 | 🖊) 13:56, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2020
i think the best tik-toker is dolphin_swim_in_water_ya 4883yqueen (talk) 09:55, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Ammarpad (talk) 10:16, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Woah
I think someone who can edit this should add the 'woah' to the article, as it is probably the most popular and most used move on TikTok and is used in close to every TikTok dance. Avalon42Iana (talk) 22:48, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2020
In the opening section, in the sentence that now says: "It is used to create short lip-synch, comedy and talent videos." Please change "lip-synch" to "dance". It is clear that 'dance' is a more accurate description of the type of videos one sees on the app. Thank you. 72.11.14.44 (talk) 10:24, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.   Alucard 16  ❯❯❯ chat?    10:32, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2020
In the opening section, in the sentence that now says: "It is used to create short lip-synch, comedy and talent videos." Please change "lip-synch" to "dance". It is clear that 'dance' is a more accurate description of the type of videos one sees on the app.

The following is a reliable source: https://slate.com/technology/2018/09/tiktok-app-musically-guide.html

And this is a quote from that article:

''Lip syncs were the original raison d’être of Musical.ly, but the app came to be known for more than just music. (“2017 will be remembered as the year Musical.ly transitioned from an app primarily for posting music videos to a broader social-media and entertainment platform,” the Wall Street Journal wrote in November.) The choice to go with the TikTok platform means that will only be more true going forward.  Dancing is particularly big on the app, which makes sense given its musical roots, and so are other movement-based activities like gymnastics, cheerleading, and parkour. Comedy is huge, though it’s often lip-sync–based comedy, which is something better experienced than explained.''

Thank you. 216.51.223.125 (talk) 12:33, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: Since it is used to create lip-synch videos in addition to dance videos I left "lip-synch" in but I added "dance" before "lip-synch". I hope this solution works.   Alucard 16  ❯❯❯ chat?    21:20, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Untitled section
Add in tiktok @jokudyde and @ericaiia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minälol (talk • contribs) 18:45, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

"Chinese"
Until a decision is made to either create a more comprehensive Douyin page to replace the redirect, I think it is very important to keep clear the distinction between these two apps, even if they are the same app on different servers, as has been asserted on the TikTok page. The first thing that should be done is the removal of the word "Chinese" from the very first sentence in the article:

TikTok (Chinese: 抖音; Dǒuyīn & previously musical.ly) is a Chinese video-sharing social networking service owned by ByteDance, a Beijing-based company founded in 2012 by Zhang Yiming.

I propose that the sentence be changed to the following:

TikTok (Chinese: 抖音; Dǒuyīn & previously musical.ly) is a video-sharing social networking service owned by ByteDance, a Beijing-based company founded in 2012 by Zhang Yiming.

This small change helps to emphasize that TikTok is the out-of-China app, while Douyin is the in-China app. I find the wording now, which includes China, unclear about what TikTok is. Thanks for your consideration. 216.228.7.248 (talk) 06:39, 29 March 2020 (UTC)


 * It's referring to country-of-origin, but maybe it's not clear enough since this is being requested. Facebook starts with – Thjarkur (talk) 09:02, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:16, 2 April 2020 (UTC)