Talk:Tim McGraw/Archive 1

Tennessee
The article says that Tennessee is Tim McGraw's home state, but the article doesn't mention his connection to Tennessee; it only mentions his connection to Louisiana - the state of his birth. Nicander (talk) 09:08, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Similarities with VH1
Why does it seem like there are a whole lot of similarities between the wikipedia article and the VH1 biography?

For instance: "brief affair with Tim's mother" vs "brief affair with McGraw's mother" "Start, LA near Monroe" "the minor hit "Welcome to the Club,"" "failed to even make the charts" vs. "failed to make much of a dent on the charts"

The paragraph about "Not A Moment Too Soon" doesn't have any noteworthy phrases in common, but it's an obvious paraphrase.

Either VH1 paraphrased Wikipedia or vice versa. In either case something needs to be done. IMO the VH1 piece has better quality of writing. -- 14:32, 22 March 2005 66.95.123.6


 * Paraphrasing without credit is plagiarism in academic work, but is somewhat ok in WP work. In any case, I've done some trimming and rewording and whatnot; over time, this text will diverge from its paraphrased source more and more.    Wasted Time R 03:42, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

I removed the #1 rank from the 2002 single "Telluride." I know for a fact that it did not reach #1 on the Billboard Hot 100. I'm not quite sure what position it did reach, so I'm leaving it blank for now. -Sebastian Prospero 05:53, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Birth name
Um, didn't his birth certificate have his birth name as Samuel Timothy McGraw and that Smith was an adopted name? The story I heard was that Tim found out about his real name (McGraw) when he found his birth certificate. -- Dubh agan  04:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Changed it. The link to the Larry King interview helps explain it.  I was right, he only thought that his surname was Smith but that wasn't what his birth certificate said.  -- Dubh  agan  05:00, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

If his birth name was Mcgraw then why did he have to have his name legally changed to Mcgraw at age 18? He said himself that his legal name was Tim Smith until he found out Tug was his dad. Again, Tim Mcgraw said himself on CMT that he had to have his namee legally changed to Mcgraw when he was 18. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmhtn6 (talk • contribs) 21:07, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Pimp
Why does the article say Tug McGraw was a "pimp"?
 * Because some clever person wanted to vandalise the article, it has been reverted.--NeilEvans 20:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Who's Tug McGraw?? are you seriously that stupid he was a pitcher for the best baseball team ever the Phillies

Tim McGraw
Is so awesome!! I love all of his songs, well just about!! Wait, yes I love all of them!!!

I am so totally in LOVE with Tim McGraw. HE'S AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -Caitlyn- damn straight

Singles list
"Down On The Farm" and "One Of These Days" didn't reach #1 on Billboard. I know that "One Of These Days" did reach #1 on Radio & Records (as did "She's My Kind Of Rain", for that matter), but for consistency's sake, I changed "Farm" and "Days" to reflect their #2 peaks on Billboard.

Also, to Caitlyn above - Did you really need to use 47 exclamation points? TenPoundHammer 03:29, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

To TenPoundHammer, did you really need to count those exclamtaions? Tim Mcgraw is and will always be an amazing country artist. I haven't seen him in concert yet but I hope to soon, he's definately my favorite country vocalists.

Sorry for jumping on you like that. By the way, please use ~ to sign your posts on the talk page. Also, I would like to point out that Live Like You Were Dying only spent seven weeks at #1 on Billboard, not 10. (It spent 10 weeks on Radio & Records). TenPoundHammer 16:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Did I see links to songs and vulgar language on Tim's single page? I say it then when I went back to read it it was gone. 6/22/2011 ~

They need to be banned from the site all together. 6/23/2011 ~

Yes I saw the same things on there!!! Its awful how someone could stoop so low to degrade the site like that. 6/24/2011 ~

We have blocked the user that defaced the pages and proper action will be taken against them. 6/24/2011 HERE2HELP ~

They are back at it again but on Tim's main page. ~

Article Length
I'm concerned that this article might be too long. Any ideas on what, if anything, should be pared, or whether any sections should become their own articles? Or am I overthinking this and it isn't too long at all?Karanacs 20:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

critical acclaim for his acting?
are you serious? he is the worst actor i have ever seen. what is the source of this critical acclaim, especially in Flicka?Keltik31 20:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * no matter what you think of his acting he has been crittically aclaimed for his acting especially in Friday Night Lights.&#91;&#91;UNderTAker FaN01]] 00:38, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't write the line, but I found several reviews that spoke very favourably of his acting to verify. I have included those citations now. Karanacs 13:41, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Template
I added a template to the bottom of this page. let me know what you think. TenPoundHammer 20:11, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Original Artists
I know Tim McGraw writes very little of his own music, in fact I wonder sometimes how people find him 'amazing' when I never see him playing an instrument, nor giving credit to his backing band, or writing his own music. Anyway, I've seen many other albums listed state the names of the songwriters who actually composed the songs, and this is done on a few of the albums, but not all of them. I'm actually curious as to whether he's even written a single song before.  Zchris87v  16:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Good questions. A lot of popular artists today have the same issues - they don't play instruments and don't write their own songs.  The article points out that Tim McGraw has recorded his last two albums with his touring band, a relatively unusual move in the country music industry, and named one of the albums for them (Tim McGraw and the Dancehall Doctors).  He also recorded a song that he cowrote for the movie Flicka, and I believe there are more songs he cowrote on his newest album. Karanacs 19:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed, there are several songs on Let It Go that he co-wrote. He also co-wrote "If You're Reading This", the song he performed at the ACM's. Personally, I don't think you have to play an instrument to be an artist -- isn't the voice itself an instrument? Ten Pound Hammer  • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 15:23, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, the voice itself is indeed an instrument, just as the guitar was to Van Halen. However, Van Halen was not regarded as a single person, but rather as a band. I correct people when I say, "You know that Van Halen song?" and they say "I kind of like his music" - most people will say "I like them." So yes, the voice is an instrument, but playing one instrument alone shouldn't stand out more than the others.  Zchris87v  05:36, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Singer-songwriter
I think the infobox should call Tim a singer-songwriter now, seeing as he's written several songs on Let It Go, as well as "If You're Reading This". Hopefully nobody objects. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 23:14, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

i am going to have to argue labeling him a songwrite. a songwriter is someone who could make a living simply writing songs. i assure you, tim mcgraw could never do this. ive only found two songs he officialy wrote. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.20.87 (talk) 22:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Nine consecutive albums debut at Number One ?
"As of his 2006, McGraw has had nine consecutive albums debut at Number One on the Billboard Country Albums Chart ..." Can this statement be proved by listing a source or list of the nine albums?  I have only been able to find 4 albums that debuted at #1: All I Want    released September 19, 1995 Everywhere    released June 3, 1997 A Place In The Sun     released May 4, 1999 Live Like You Were Dying	Released August 24, 2004 Smheard 22:18, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Throwing out a fan
Why nothing about this incident where he threw out a fan that was allegedly about to attack a woman in the audience? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yh4FEnFtFs&amp;feature=related 203.184.31.162 (talk) 08:00, 30 June 2008 (UTC)Mr Fast, 30th June 208
 * That is essentially trivia. If he had a history of throwing out fans, then that would be notable, but by itself it is just celebrity gossip. Karanacs (talk) 13:52, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

What about when a Fan grabbed his crotch in 2007 at the Soul2Soul tour? Their is no mention of it on his page. I guess that is trivia too. Majinsnake (talk) 04:18, 29 September 2012 (UTC)majinsnake

Roomed with Doug Pederson, baseball scholarship?
I and my brother were athletic trainers at NLU. My brothers sport was baseball and mine was football. My brother has never met Tim McGraw. And my friend at the time Doug Pederson, was a football player. They didn't share dorms with the baseball players. So unless they had an appartment off campus together, I doubt that they were roommates. I would post the true facts of the matter if I accurately knew them. Since I do not, I simply removed the part about Tim studying sports medicine at NLU. NLU did not even offer sports medicine curriculum then. The closest University that I could transfer to that did was Southern Miss. I would hold in doubt most of the article accept where he was born and where he moved to. Thanks, Jagsrock (talk) 19:03, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I checked the source that the statement was cited to, and it said nothing about his college roommates. I've removed that information unless someone can provide a source that actually says that.  The source did say sports medicine however - they may have been generically speaking of the stuff he studied rather than an official degree.  Karanacs (talk) 19:19, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Home state of Tennessee?
Just curious about the citation of McGraw's desire to be a politician in his "home state" of Tennessee. Does he have two home states? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lutherkent (talk • contribs) 17:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I was searching for "Angel boy" (out of Set this Circus Down album) position on charts, but I didn't find. There's a video for it. Anyone's able to explain something about it? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.55.199.239 (talk) 20:34, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Something about a song
I was searching for "Angel boy" (out of Set this Circus Down album) position on charts, but I didn't find. There's a video for it. Anyone's able to explain something about it? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.55.199.239 (talk) 20:37, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think that was officially released as a single. Karanacs (talk) 20:56, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

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The paragraph that cites looktothestars.org seems to be a direct copy/paste. I wasn't sure if there was a template I should add, or if there is a good way to rewrite it. - Paul2520 (talk) 00:05, 22 January 2017 (UTC)